On 2021-05-10 00:47, Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> Hmmm.
> It seems to me like ISPConfig might be a bit more than needed for
> running a home server or two.
>
> Now, as for my situation, I also am on a cox business class circuit
> (recently upgraded to 100 Gbits/sec downstream and 20 Gbits/sec
> upstream. The Nighthawk brand router I have in place for my
> firewall/wifi node is ok, but honestly, I would rather have a linux
> laptop running as the firewall. I could do a lot more with that than
> the current hardware (including having a speech engine running on it
> for those times when I need to do something in console mode). At
> least, with linux (or one of the *BSD’s), I have a lot more control
> over what I want to do.
>
> Given some of the lessons learned over the years, I would have pass
> throughs on separate virtual subnets for external servers (like a tor
> node, web server, etc). Let the laptop be a dedicated firewall. Only
> two issues might make this a bit of a problem:
> 1. The laptop would have to have at least 2 ethernet ports on it, and
> as far as I know, that’s actually quite rare
> 2. Setting up virtual subnets answerable through a single ethernet
> device are a real pain.
>
> Failing that, perhaps a small desktop machine (MicroATX with some
> spare slots, 4 GB of ram and a small SSD) would be more appropriate.
> Then I could add a 5 port ethernet card on a PCI—x slot and also have
> a couple of other goodies runnin.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Also, will ISPConfig actually run under Linux or is it one of those
> silly windows only apps? I only ask this because I have seen the
> windows installer for it but haven’t run across the linux or BSD
> versions of it yet.
I was unaware it runs on Win. I'm looking to run it on Ubuntu LTS
>
> -Eric
> From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, data center
> operations dept.
>
>
>> On May 9, 2021, at 6:39 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
>> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thank you for your reply. I'll checkout Ajenti.
>> - - -
>>
>> On 2021-05-09 13:24, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>> Ajenti might be a bit more what you are looking for. It is less ISP
>>> hosting oriented, and more for general single-server management.
>>> On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 11:09 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
>>> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>> I should have given more info.
>>>> I am not a system admin I am a PHP developer. I think I know a fair
>>>> amount about Linux when it comes to PHP/MySql hosting. For instance
>>>> I
>>>> used an old laptop to create a development environment using my Cox
>>>> business connection and for DNS I use ZoneEdit. I think it might be
>>>> running Ubuntu 218.04LTS.
>>>> Mail and DNS are beyond my limits. I do understand DNS, however I
>>>> could
>>>> know more.
>>>> About 6 years ago a friend built me a complete web server on an old
>>>> desktop that way just laying around. It worked well.
>>>> Based on that I bought a Dell i3 with 8G of RAM. I was going to do
>>>> all
>>>> my hosting locally ... I know foolish... But it was a learning
>>>> project.
>>>> Fast forward 6 years or so and the i3 has never been used. I'm
>>>> pretty
>>>> sure about 3 years ago I swapped the spinner for an SSD.
>>>> Another friend who owns a data center asked me to evaluate ISPConfig
>>>> maybe 3 years ago. I found it confusing and there was little
>>>> information available beyond what ISPConfig provided.
>>>> So here I sit with and i3, a copy of Ubuntu 20.04LTS, and an
>>>> Internet
>>>> connection that does not block ports.
>>>> Currently I am hosting my websites on a VPS that is managed by
>>>> Plesk.
>>>> Plesk is really nice and has so many features I'm sure I have missed
>>>> some opportunity.
>>>> Based on all of this I do not want to do away with my VPS I just
>>>> want to
>>>> configure that now old i3 and play around with it.
>>>> What I am looking for:
>>>> 1) Automate creating vhost accounts. ( I think I read that ISPConfig
>>>> is
>>>> a replacement for WHM and Cpanel)
>>>> 2) Automate creating DNS zone files.
>>>> 3) Automate creating email accounts.
>>>> 4) Automate registering and configuring Let's Encrypt certs.
>>>> Basically something that does for me what Plesk does for me. I am
>>>> not a
>>>> mail man nor is DNS really something I would like to manage by hand
>>>> -
>>>> maybe sometime in the future.
>>>> Thank You for All Your Feedback!!
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>>>> On 2021-05-08 20:22, James Mcphee via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>>>> ISPConfig is a web application so other people can host websites
>>>> on
>>>>> your stuff. It's a fat stack to maintain, and as such will take
>>>> much
>>>>> more time to work with than just standing up a webserver.
>>>>> If you're looking at learning ISPConfig, then there's no
>>>> alternative.
>>>>> Things like it are cPanel and Plesk if you want that kind of
>>>> thing,
>>>>> but haven't decided on ISPConfig.
>>>>> If you're just looking at standing up a webserver to do webservery
>>>>> things, then i'd recommend not getting overly complicated.
>>>> Install
>>>>> just what you need so you don't end up with a giant stack to
>>>> maintain,
>>>>> instead of focussing on what you're trying to learn.
>>>>> There aren't many details on what you're looking for as an end
>>>> result,
>>>>> so I can't offer much advice there. Generally I stand up a
>>>>> loadbalancer that takes traffic from the interwebs, and use that
>>>> to
>>>>> route to whatever server behind I feel like playing with that day.
>>>>> But this is very specific to my use case, and not for everyone.
>>>>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 7:22 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
>>>>> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>>> I have a business account with Cox and they allow servers. It
>>>> will
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> public facing. I would like to hear more about "it makes
>>>>>> assumptions
>>>>>> you may or may not be willing to accept.".
>>>>>> Thank you for your feedback!!
>>>>>> On 2021-05-07 21:19, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote:
>>>>>>> ISP config is really geared to running an external facing server
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> become hosting. It's very good for that, but it makes
>>>> assumptions
>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> may or may not be willing to accept.
>>>>>>> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 6:31 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss
>>>>>>> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> I am considering configuring a "home web server" using
>>>> ISPConfig.
>>>>>>>> This
>>>>>>>> is not a production situation. It is for learning.
>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>> Thanks!!
>>>>>>>> Keith
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