On 2021-05-10 00:47, Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss wrote: > Hmmm. > It seems to me like ISPConfig might be a bit more than needed for > running a home server or two. > > Now, as for my situation, I also am on a cox business class circuit > (recently upgraded to 100 Gbits/sec downstream and 20 Gbits/sec > upstream. The Nighthawk brand router I have in place for my > firewall/wifi node is ok, but honestly, I would rather have a linux > laptop running as the firewall. I could do a lot more with that than > the current hardware (including having a speech engine running on it > for those times when I need to do something in console mode). At > least, with linux (or one of the *BSD’s), I have a lot more control > over what I want to do. > > Given some of the lessons learned over the years, I would have pass > throughs on separate virtual subnets for external servers (like a tor > node, web server, etc). Let the laptop be a dedicated firewall. Only > two issues might make this a bit of a problem: > 1. The laptop would have to have at least 2 ethernet ports on it, and > as far as I know, that’s actually quite rare > 2. Setting up virtual subnets answerable through a single ethernet > device are a real pain. > > Failing that, perhaps a small desktop machine (MicroATX with some > spare slots, 4 GB of ram and a small SSD) would be more appropriate. > Then I could add a 5 port ethernet card on a PCI—x slot and also have > a couple of other goodies runnin. > > Thoughts? > > Also, will ISPConfig actually run under Linux or is it one of those > silly windows only apps? I only ask this because I have seen the > windows installer for it but haven’t run across the linux or BSD > versions of it yet. I was unaware it runs on Win. I'm looking to run it on Ubuntu LTS > > -Eric > From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, data center > operations dept. > > >> On May 9, 2021, at 6:39 PM, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss >> wrote: >> >> >> Thank you for your reply. I'll checkout Ajenti. >> - - - >> >> On 2021-05-09 13:24, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>> Ajenti might be a bit more what you are looking for. It is less ISP >>> hosting oriented, and more for general single-server management. >>> On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 11:09 AM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss >>> wrote: >>>> I should have given more info. >>>> I am not a system admin I am a PHP developer. I think I know a fair >>>> amount about Linux when it comes to PHP/MySql hosting. For instance >>>> I >>>> used an old laptop to create a development environment using my Cox >>>> business connection and for DNS I use ZoneEdit. I think it might be >>>> running Ubuntu 218.04LTS. >>>> Mail and DNS are beyond my limits. I do understand DNS, however I >>>> could >>>> know more. >>>> About 6 years ago a friend built me a complete web server on an old >>>> desktop that way just laying around. It worked well. >>>> Based on that I bought a Dell i3 with 8G of RAM. I was going to do >>>> all >>>> my hosting locally ... I know foolish... But it was a learning >>>> project. >>>> Fast forward 6 years or so and the i3 has never been used. I'm >>>> pretty >>>> sure about 3 years ago I swapped the spinner for an SSD. >>>> Another friend who owns a data center asked me to evaluate ISPConfig >>>> maybe 3 years ago. I found it confusing and there was little >>>> information available beyond what ISPConfig provided. >>>> So here I sit with and i3, a copy of Ubuntu 20.04LTS, and an >>>> Internet >>>> connection that does not block ports. >>>> Currently I am hosting my websites on a VPS that is managed by >>>> Plesk. >>>> Plesk is really nice and has so many features I'm sure I have missed >>>> some opportunity. >>>> Based on all of this I do not want to do away with my VPS I just >>>> want to >>>> configure that now old i3 and play around with it. >>>> What I am looking for: >>>> 1) Automate creating vhost accounts. ( I think I read that ISPConfig >>>> is >>>> a replacement for WHM and Cpanel) >>>> 2) Automate creating DNS zone files. >>>> 3) Automate creating email accounts. >>>> 4) Automate registering and configuring Let's Encrypt certs. >>>> Basically something that does for me what Plesk does for me. I am >>>> not a >>>> mail man nor is DNS really something I would like to manage by hand >>>> - >>>> maybe sometime in the future. >>>> Thank You for All Your Feedback!! >>>> - - - >>>> On 2021-05-08 20:22, James Mcphee via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>>>> ISPConfig is a web application so other people can host websites >>>> on >>>>> your stuff. It's a fat stack to maintain, and as such will take >>>> much >>>>> more time to work with than just standing up a webserver. >>>>> If you're looking at learning ISPConfig, then there's no >>>> alternative. >>>>> Things like it are cPanel and Plesk if you want that kind of >>>> thing, >>>>> but haven't decided on ISPConfig. >>>>> If you're just looking at standing up a webserver to do webservery >>>>> things, then i'd recommend not getting overly complicated. >>>> Install >>>>> just what you need so you don't end up with a giant stack to >>>> maintain, >>>>> instead of focussing on what you're trying to learn. >>>>> There aren't many details on what you're looking for as an end >>>> result, >>>>> so I can't offer much advice there. Generally I stand up a >>>>> loadbalancer that takes traffic from the interwebs, and use that >>>> to >>>>> route to whatever server behind I feel like playing with that day. >>>>> But this is very specific to my use case, and not for everyone. >>>>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 7:22 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> I have a business account with Cox and they allow servers. It >>>> will >>>>>> be >>>>>> public facing. I would like to hear more about "it makes >>>>>> assumptions >>>>>> you may or may not be willing to accept.". >>>>>> Thank you for your feedback!! >>>>>> On 2021-05-07 21:19, Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss wrote: >>>>>>> ISP config is really geared to running an external facing server >>>>>> and >>>>>>> become hosting. It's very good for that, but it makes >>>> assumptions >>>>>> you >>>>>>> may or may not be willing to accept. >>>>>>> On Fri, May 7, 2021 at 6:31 PM Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> I am considering configuring a "home web server" using >>>> ISPConfig. >>>>>>>> This >>>>>>>> is not a production situation. It is for learning. >>>>>>>> Any thoughts? >>>>>>>> Thanks!! >>>>>>>> Keith >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent >>>> you >>>>>> from >>>>>>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze >>>>>> button. >>>>>>> Stephen >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> -- >>>>> James McPhee >>>>> jmcphe@gmail.com >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> -- >>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you >>> from >>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>> Stephen >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss