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Author: Ed via PLUG-discuss
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Subject: Re: FLOSS thermostats?
Hans - looks like project time ->
https://opensource.com/article/21/3/thermostat-raspberry-pi

On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 6:17 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
<> wrote:
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> I actually had/have (in a junk pile somewhere) a couple of these exact units - they were all but useless devices as-is. The wifi is a locked down firmware that only worked with some godforsaken garbage of an web app service with no security. The only way to make it at all useful was since they are modular with the wifi component and replaceable with a zwave unit that actually did work generically with my Vera zwave controller at the time, it was slightly better.
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> I've just simply not found anything better than Ecobee personally, and while not "open", I'll take function after trying to find a perfect wifi/other remote one. My buddy had a Nest thermostat, and after google began tweeking their software to ruin it, he now has an Ecobee too.
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> -mb
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> On Mon, Mar 8, 2021 at 12:28 AM der.hans <> wrote:
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>> Am 04. Mar, 2021 schwätzte Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss so:
>>
>> moin moin,
>>
>> offlist I got a suggestion for Radio Thermostat CT50e
>>
>> "Includes Wi-Fi unsnap module – allows connection to Wife and/or our cloud
>> services. Open API available to allow you to create your own interface. C
>> wire required for Wi-Fi operation additional minimal annual fee required."
>>
>> https://vipoutlet.com/product/radio-thermostat-ct50e-wifi-7-day-wi-fi-module-programmable-thermostat-2/
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>> Not certain what a C wire is or why I need to pay an annual fee to use it.
>>
>> The website for Radio Thermostat is wix and requires a bunch of third
>> party javascript, so I recommend avoiding it.
>>
>> On the Fediverse someone recommended tasmota firmware and Sonoff hardware.
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>> There are a bunch of posts about that combo. Sonoff looks interesting.
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>> https://sonoff.tech/
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>> Apparently the tasmota firmware generally works with Sonoff products.
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>> I think I'm definitely gonna get a couple Sonoff products to play with.
>>
>> ciao,
>>
>> der.hans
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>> > I've not seen one, and been looking a good while actually. I use a pair of
>> > Ecobees, I like them, and they provide a decent external API to other
>> > ecosystems that is well supported. They're probably yet another crapgadget
>> > iot things infected with junk corporate or chinese code, who knows where
>> > they stop or begin. They use some remote external wireless sensors that
>> > are cool for various rooms that really I don't see ever happening, so while
>> > not ideal, ideal doesn't exist today.
>> >
>> > Sadly I think just no one has gotten around to this, or scared to take
>> > responsibility to do so. I use OpenSprinkler boards for, well sprinklers,
>> > and works well enough as an attachment to a RPi - been waiting for like for
>> > thermostat control, but nada. I'd imagine you need some 24vdc conversion
>> > and relays to handle your hvac, rest is all logic to not blow up a house
>> > accidentally, freeze, or bake to death in extreme climates. Who's open!
>> >
>> > Otherwise, just buy an Ecobee or Nest, talk to an API, and hope they aren't
>> > selling you out to anyone by design or ignorance with shoddy dev's.
>> >
>> > -mb
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 2:17 PM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
>> > > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Fascinating idea, Still searching, but
>> >> https://blog.particle.io/open-source-thermostat/ is a neat read.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Mar 4, 2021 at 11:48 AM der.hans via PLUG-discuss <
>> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> moin moin,
>> >>>
>> >>> We're replacing the home air handler soon.
>> >>>
>> >>> Anyone have experience with a FLOSS digital thermostat?
>> >>>
>> >>> Or at least something that doesn't require connecting to the internet?
>> >>>
>> >>> I would like to do some automation via local connections, but want to keep
>> >>> everything within a local network segment.
>> >>>
>> >>> ciao,
>> >>>
>> >>> der.hans
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>> >>
>> >> Stephen
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