I found a viable solution with an FTP app for Macs called Forklift 3.
It lets you set up tabs for any number of sites and either drag-n-drop or copy/paste from one to another. It does the download and then the upload, and uses FXP if it’s enabled.
According to my ISP, FXP requires a port to be opened that continually listening for requests, and it’s presents a security risk from people who use port scanners to look for open ports to abuse.
It made me think how many features there are on servers today that are locked away unusable because nobody has bothered to put doors on them that let you open them temporarily and shut them automatically after some amount of time.
With so many places switching to 2FA, I think it’s time to start looking more closely at "timed resource access on request”. I’m getting fed up with all of the 2FA crap that only exists because of this historical belief that 100% of our resources need to be available 100% of the time. So we use 2FA and other things to keep the riff-raff out during the 99% of the time we’re not using these resources.
If we started putting doors on stuff that were only open long enough for us to do what we need, these hackers and scriptk kiddies would eventually go away. Especially if we can set them up on proxies on servers in front of our real servers so as to minimize the abuse these people impart on the servers they’re trying to get into.
-David Schwartz
> On Nov 23, 2020, at 11:56 AM, Snyder, Alexander J <alexander@snyderfamily.co> wrote:
>
> I recall a site to site copy functionality within WHM. Although I haven't used WHM since I worked with SmoFaddy almost 6 years ago.
>
> Short of that, it seems crazy to think that they would restrict SSH.
>
> Let me know if you need more help, and I can try to research it more.
>
> -Alex
>
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 11:27 David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org <mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>> wrote:
> Thanks, I’ll look into FXP.
>
> I’m not using GD for hosting and this is not a one-time thing. I’m finding I’m having to zip up and copy files from one site to another on a more frequent basis, so I wanted to be able to do it more directly.
>
> I guess an FTP client that lets me simulate that would be almost as good — with two windows that look at two different FTP sites, and I can simply drag-n-drop or click to send a file from one to the other, and it handles the DL and UL invisibly.
>
> All FTP clients I know of are only between another system and my local machine.
>
> -David Schwartz
>
>
>
>> On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:23 AM, Thomas Scott <mr.thomas.scott@gmail.com <mailto:mr.thomas.scott@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I seem to remember running this via FTP to FTP connection, I think it was called FXP? That's the direction I'd start looking at - Wikipedia has a list of FTP clients that support FXP: Comparison of FTP client software - Wikipedia <https://u2206659.ct.sendgrid.net/ls/click?upn=SJEG7TF39YLaAIMD0HhsfJkjrxUKkKXCH0UcDCU0jN1961NtsxnPMCmJV2Ak6MPoCdMfgUZ7u2wEKFWqp4LxwT-2FLnmdYAPV-2FpStnmjQrxWtthHZzz8oEgGgTFnMYEJZs9wQ0_o-2BjQxMsWfboH-2B-2BcY2qb3IYCoqvthnvff9ftZz0pNEJ2tF1jbVlVBtrlaPYq4av3GZaCnlGKE1J2oTWGN39nBRX0zFjOHlxEVmzAwUMvPu4UQne4dd8fOT5lHKRY4G9V36uXr-2BijCQy6pbM3nYM77WYSy-2FaEbZyRrmh7m2Rz7A7b-2Bq-2B4ThgiLfNRycWsE0GyQcjf-2FAP6-2B6ZnuG-2Bd-2FQ3gxYTDXbCg1ICM3rmjy8GaJ9eM-3D>
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>> If you're using "that" hosting provider, (rhymes with SmoFaddy) I know at one point you could call into their AHS (Advanced Hosting Support) group and kindly ask them do the aforementioned transfer, but that was a 7 years and several re-orgs ago.
>>
>> - Thomas Scott | mr.thomas.scott@gmail.com <mailto:mr.thomas.scott@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 2:42 AM David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org <mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>> wrote:
>> Thanks for the suggestions.
>>
>> 1. I don’t know.
>>
>> 2. I don’t have root access, and am unable to run SSH/SCP.
>>
>> 3. This is a shared server. no console access is allowed. No SSH, no rsync, no nuth’n.
>>
>> That said, it’s a full WEB HOST. So I can upload a small php script that could reach out to the other account and copy the file over, maybe via an FTP xfer or HTTP copy.
>>
>> It seems like a bunch of hoops to jump thru simply because they won’t set up a shared folder that all of the domains in my account can access, but … what can I say. It’s a shared server.
>>
>> That does give me an idea, tho….
>>
>> -David Schwartz
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 22, 2020, at 11:46 PM, Eric Oyen via PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org <mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> > A few questions here:
>> > 1. Are they “running instances” of an OS?
>> > 2. If so, can you use SSH/SCP between them
>> > 3. Any other networked application (console type) like RSync or similar that can be used?
>> >
>> > Otherwise, unless you have root access to the original image, I am not sure what else you can do.
>> >
>> > -Eric
>> > From the Central Offices of the Technomage Guild, Tech support center.
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Nov 22, 2020, at 7:07 PM, David Schwartz via PLUG-discuss <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org <mailto:plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I have a “reseller” type shared hosting account where I have a WHM that lets me create cPanel accounts. IOW, I don’t have root access.
>> >>
>> >> There’s a skel folder on the main account, and when i create a new cPanel account, it copies files into the new account. Pretty standard for *nix systems.
>> >>
>> >> I’m looking for a way to copy files from one of my cPanel accounts to another without having to download to my local machine then upload to the other account.
>> >>
>> >> They’re both accounts I have control of on the same server in the same /home filetree.
>> >>
>> >> But their support says there’s no way to do that other than with skel, but that’s not what I want. They’re already set up.
>> >>
>> >> Basically I simply want to copy some zip files from one account to a few others as directly as possible.
>> >>
>> >> Surely there’s got to be a way to do that, maybe FTP-to-FTP, or a little script I can put in each public_html folder that does a copy….
>> >>
>> >> Puzzled minds want to know. :)
>> >>
>> >> -David Schwartz
>> >>
>> >>
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