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Author: Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss
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CC: Stephen Partington
Subject: Re: Linux Memory (again)
MS does some weird stuff when it comes to memory and will try to push
content to a pagefile before the memory is needed.

As for your concerns Brave might be worth exploring. If I recall correctly
it is chrome/chromium with all the privacy turned on and then some.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 9:30 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss <
> wrote:

> I switched from Chrome (again) to Firefox about 6mo ago, for memory
> reasons, and for their spyware sending everything I do through google.com.
> Not sure firefox is really any better here at least as far as memory
> consumption.
>
> I run things like New Tab Suspender, noscript, ublock origin, etc, so I
> don't suspect these should use nearly as much ram as they do, so I'm
> wondering if browsers have just piggishly outgrown usable footprints?
>
> How does this look under windoze if anyone does the same? I just use
> windoze vm's mostly as a visio hypervisor and connection to remote
> corporate networks that require os validation (meh, like windoze is ever
> actually secure, dumb corps).
>
> -mb
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 8:57 AM Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss <
> > wrote:
>
>> One of the things I have seen is with browsers they have a flexible
>> memory footprint. As such they will look at availability of free ram and
>> kind of bloat to fit in order to cache more and provide a "better" browsing
>> experience.
>>
>> There are some under the hood settings that may allow you to restrict
>> this behavior. Mozilla I found trats each individual profile as its own
>> instance so it swells super fast. Chrome seems to keep multiple profile
>> awareness better and considers all profiles together. Eve though it takes
>> more it usually gives it back more readily.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2020, 7:49 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss <
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Memory usage is getting frustrating for me, as whether I use 64gb of
>>> ram, or 128gb, I still tend to exhaust memory on my system. My laptop
>>> currently has 64gb, and started freaking out this morning, to find I was
>>> hitting oom's again with browsing and some general use as wake up.
>>>
>>> Trying to figure out with htop what is using all my memory, firefox was
>>> a big consumer, using ~25gb of ram once killed. Yeah, it's like that.
>>> Chrome was typically worse. I use 6 profiles, as I have to for different
>>> companies I consult for, mostly due to different gsuite accounts and
>>> different o365 accounts that will not play nice in a same profile. Same
>>> for Chrome. I figure I can't be the only person that does this, perhaps
>>> so, but the memory utilization with with only a few tabs on each is
>>> astounding.
>>>
>>> I tend to run several VM's at a time, a full instance of windoze10 or
>>> two with 4-8gb of ram work fine.
>>>
>>> I use pluma text editor a lot as the gedit fork from mint, which I'll
>>> find uses 3-4gb of memory with a few dozen text files open. Of text.
>>> Doesn't seem to be worth a few gig of ram.
>>>
>>> Libreoffice itself tends to use 3-4gb of memory keeping a dozen or two
>>> files open, which again flipping between several customers, I tend to work
>>> on, review, etc constantly.
>>>
>>> Even on boot, kde tends to use ~3.5gb of memory, and after running for a
>>> few week or two, with everything else killed, will start consuming ~9gb
>>> with nothing else running. No idea where it goes.
>>>
>>> My question is how the heck do others run linux with only 4-8gb of ram
>>> on a "normal" system? Most linux users are likely IT professionals like
>>> myself, just curious what the heck I'm doing wrong.
>>>
>>> -mb
>>>
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