Agreed, and even more so, I have seen internal PSU fans die too, so make
sure to check that.
-mb
On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 10:41 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss <
plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> Are you sure all your fans are running, including in your power supply?
> If you CPU fan secured properly and has good (Not dried out) thermal
> paste on it. If you took your CPU fan off and it had some of that
> thermal waxy stuff on it and you just put it back on, it's probably not
> conducting heat very well. I would take it back off and scrape all that
> stuff off and put some proper thermal compound on it in it's place.
>
> In my experience, if your computer is randomly locking up, it's usually
> heat related. Although it CAN be the power supply, usually power
> supplies just tend to outright die and will refuse to turn on your
> machine when they go bad. The other things are bad RAM and bad
> software.... but if you've tested your ram and you haven't changed
> anything software wise, I would look for a heat related issue.
>
> Brian Cluff
>
>
> On 7/12/20 7:49 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote:
> > OK.... well, I ran stress and gearsglx and the computer ran fine for
> > about 5 minutes and then it froze. so this means it is the hardware?
> > so I guess.... is it the power supply? what else could it be? how can
> > I verify or else is it a shot in the dark?
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 10:17 PM Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> thanks for shaaring your experiances with me!
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 10:58 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
> >> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> >>> That is about how my laptop was acting using the i915 driver vs. the
> intel kernel mode driver... Maybe make sure you're not using that, by
> default you shouldn't. I ended up with it trying to make prime gpu
> switching work.
> >>>
> >>> It could be gpu related still, most browsers use hardware acceleration
> that could be hitting it.
> >>>
> >>> Try running glx-gears for a while in full-screen to see how it acts if
> it dies when heating up.
> >>>
> >>> I also had an older system that was locking up seemingly whenever I'd
> hit the graphics. Turns out the gpu fan went bad, with ambient case fans
> keeping it cool enough off the heatsink, but watching a movie or something
> that hit the gpu, it would crash. Tearing it open it was then obvious the
> fan wasn't working. Of course I couldn't find a fan that fit the stupid
> thing, so I ended up buying a new gpu for it, all was well.
> >>>
> >>> Only ever had one PSU that got wonky on me to crash intermittently in
> some 25 years of building pc's, but it happens...
> >>>
> >>> Also, boot up and in grub run memtestx86 on it, bad memory sectors can
> cause grief too with intermittent locks, usually the more ram you invoke,
> you'll hit the bad spot.
> >>>
> >>> -mb
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 9:36 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> >>>> you know.... it seems that the first time of the day I start it it
> >>>> runs a few minutes and then freezes. but upon subsequent restarts
> >>>> everything is good.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 8:18 PM Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> I have ssh installed on my system but to ssh into another system you
> >>>>> need ssh-server installed on your computer but I can't find it. I
> >>>>> guess I'm wrong. What else do you need installed?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 8:03 PM Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> I think my issue might also be grafix related because when it first
> >>>>>> started doing this the dark areas on my desktop picture would turn
> >>>>>> blue when it froze. I do have another system. Could you walk me
> >>>>>> through solving the problem?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 11:11 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss
> >>>>>> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>> It really could be about anything, hardware or software. Unplug
> everything unnecessary, even usb things, and just see if it locks up then.
> I've had psu's do this, video cards, ram, even usb devices cause weird
> hardware-ish problems. Check dmesg and /var/log as well for errors/events,
> could indicate a flaky device.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Also software - upgrading ram recently, I also updated my system
> since I had to reboot anyways, and my pc began locking up every 2 days. I
> thought the new ram perhaps was bad, but memtest looked ok. It took some
> digging, but guess I picked up a bug in using an old intel graphics driver
> inadvertently, removed that driver, and I've had 70 days of uptime since.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I had to get a bit creative to diag this, including sshing into it
> from another system when it did lock up. Turns out it was graphics
> related, just the display froze, but the system worked otherwise headless.
> This led me to investigate graphics as a source of the lockups to fix at a
> driver level. If you have another system available, I'd suggest that.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -mb
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 6:36 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss <
> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> sometimes my computer freezes. is iut the power supply?
> >>>>>>>>
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