Agreed, and even more so, I have seen internal PSU fans die too, so make sure to check that. -mb On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 10:41 PM Brian Cluff via PLUG-discuss < plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > Are you sure all your fans are running, including in your power supply? > If you CPU fan secured properly and has good (Not dried out) thermal > paste on it. If you took your CPU fan off and it had some of that > thermal waxy stuff on it and you just put it back on, it's probably not > conducting heat very well. I would take it back off and scrape all that > stuff off and put some proper thermal compound on it in it's place. > > In my experience, if your computer is randomly locking up, it's usually > heat related. Although it CAN be the power supply, usually power > supplies just tend to outright die and will refuse to turn on your > machine when they go bad. The other things are bad RAM and bad > software.... but if you've tested your ram and you haven't changed > anything software wise, I would look for a heat related issue. > > Brian Cluff > > > On 7/12/20 7:49 PM, Michael via PLUG-discuss wrote: > > OK.... well, I ran stress and gearsglx and the computer ran fine for > > about 5 minutes and then it froze. so this means it is the hardware? > > so I guess.... is it the power supply? what else could it be? how can > > I verify or else is it a shot in the dark? > > > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 10:17 PM Michael wrote: > >> thanks for shaaring your experiances with me! > >> > >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 10:58 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss > >> wrote: > >>> That is about how my laptop was acting using the i915 driver vs. the > intel kernel mode driver... Maybe make sure you're not using that, by > default you shouldn't. I ended up with it trying to make prime gpu > switching work. > >>> > >>> It could be gpu related still, most browsers use hardware acceleration > that could be hitting it. > >>> > >>> Try running glx-gears for a while in full-screen to see how it acts if > it dies when heating up. > >>> > >>> I also had an older system that was locking up seemingly whenever I'd > hit the graphics. Turns out the gpu fan went bad, with ambient case fans > keeping it cool enough off the heatsink, but watching a movie or something > that hit the gpu, it would crash. Tearing it open it was then obvious the > fan wasn't working. Of course I couldn't find a fan that fit the stupid > thing, so I ended up buying a new gpu for it, all was well. > >>> > >>> Only ever had one PSU that got wonky on me to crash intermittently in > some 25 years of building pc's, but it happens... > >>> > >>> Also, boot up and in grub run memtestx86 on it, bad memory sectors can > cause grief too with intermittent locks, usually the more ram you invoke, > you'll hit the bad spot. > >>> > >>> -mb > >>> > >>> > >>> On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 9:36 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > >>>> you know.... it seems that the first time of the day I start it it > >>>> runs a few minutes and then freezes. but upon subsequent restarts > >>>> everything is good. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 8:18 PM Michael wrote: > >>>>> I have ssh installed on my system but to ssh into another system you > >>>>> need ssh-server installed on your computer but I can't find it. I > >>>>> guess I'm wrong. What else do you need installed? > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 8:03 PM Michael wrote: > >>>>>> I think my issue might also be grafix related because when it first > >>>>>> started doing this the dark areas on my desktop picture would turn > >>>>>> blue when it froze. I do have another system. Could you walk me > >>>>>> through solving the problem? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 11:11 AM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> It really could be about anything, hardware or software. Unplug > everything unnecessary, even usb things, and just see if it locks up then. > I've had psu's do this, video cards, ram, even usb devices cause weird > hardware-ish problems. Check dmesg and /var/log as well for errors/events, > could indicate a flaky device. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Also software - upgrading ram recently, I also updated my system > since I had to reboot anyways, and my pc began locking up every 2 days. I > thought the new ram perhaps was bad, but memtest looked ok. It took some > digging, but guess I picked up a bug in using an old intel graphics driver > inadvertently, removed that driver, and I've had 70 days of uptime since. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I had to get a bit creative to diag this, including sshing into it > from another system when it did lock up. Turns out it was graphics > related, just the display froze, but the system worked otherwise headless. > This led me to investigate graphics as a source of the lockups to fix at a > driver level. If you have another system available, I'd suggest that. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -mb > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 6:36 AM Michael via PLUG-discuss < > plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org> wrote: > >>>>>>>> sometimes my computer freezes. is iut the power supply? > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: > >>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >>>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >>>>>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >>>>>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> :-)~MIKE~(-: > >>>> --------------------------------------------------- > >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >>>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >>> --------------------------------------------------- > >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >>> https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> > >> > >> -- > >> :-)~MIKE~(-: > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > https://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss