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Author: Stephen Partington via PLUG-discuss
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CC: Stephen Partington
Subject: Re: Password Management Services
The current and last few nextcloud iterations have been awesome for sync
needs, and the mobile app has been great.


On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 5:57 PM Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss <
> wrote:

> It's been a good while since looking at KeePassXC, but looks like it's
> come a long way here. The "database merge" function sounds interesting for
> what I need, as well as it has a browser plugin it seems... How good is
> the question? Lastpass in the browser is pretty sharp about noticing input
> fields, referencing the right accounts, multi-computer sync, things like
> that.
> I used KeePass, and later KeePassX for a good 10 years or so before the
> last 5yr of Lastpass, but it was always quirky to replicate between
> computers (not to mention fscking mono). It just didn't work when I had
> 3-4 separate systems that needed to work with it and rsyncing. I'm used to
> versioning and replicating my work data, which passwords are largely a part
> of here, but if I make a change on my desktop, before I sync it to my
> laptop while I'm on the road for a week or two, I have source of truth
> issues and someone loses with no atomic updates in a flat file.
> Moving to Lastpass fixed this, and holy crap, the browser plugins can
> autofill? Word.
> Remove the cloud, it needs a database or api-sort of constant CRUD-type of
> feed for all endpoint clients still ideally. I can do this with VPN, but
> not found something like a client/server application to replicate what
> lastpass or onepass bring. I'll have to see if KeePassXC does anything
> like this, as simply rsync a flat file between hosts is never good, and has
> caused me grief. I can always run a small db on my synology ideally, or
> some cheap cloud instance. Give me a reason to set up a Nebula
> <>
> network to keep everything talking...
> I tried nextcloud on my synology, it was just weird to use - didn't like
> it. Syncing files was problematic I found, really I just wanted to dump my
> phone pictures out between phone devices, and never could get it to work.
> I just sort of abandoned it years ago, but another thing perhaps to look at
> if there are features for password management.
> Never heard of BitWarden, but will look into it.
> Thanks Hans!
> -mb
> On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 11:44 AM der.hans <> wrote:
>> Am 24. May, 2020 schwätzte Michael Butash via PLUG-discuss so:
>> moin moin,
>> I have been happily using and giving presentations on KeePassX for more
>> than a decade. It isn't cloudy, so you have to provide your own sync. To
>> me this is good as it encourages different files for different reasons,
>> e.g. I have a travel file with just a few passwords, a file I share with
>> the family and files for different non-profits I work with.
>> If you use KeePassX, I recommend the KeePassXC fork, but there's a
>> consistent lockup bug in the Ubuntu Bionic distro, so stick with KeePassX
>> there. Both are good, but KeePassXC has more people actively working on it
>> and is getting more updates.
>> As to cloudy services, I tested two different password manager apps
>> available for NextCloud. I was going to use one for a project, but stopped
>> working on that project.
>> There's also BitWarden. I haven't used it, but have gotten good reviews of
>> it from people at conferences.
>> ciao,
>> der.hans
>> > I've been using LastPass for 5 years, as I purchased a 5yr subscription
>> > initially liking the product so much. Since then, they've been through
>> > acquisition by LogMeIn/GoToMeeting, which I hate, first thing jacking
>> > prices, had security resets due to dubious levels of being hacked, and
>> just
>> > both the UI and the service have gotten worse over the past few years
>> since
>> > GTM bought them. I don't trust it'll get better from here.
>> >
>> > What are you all using for password management, particularly full-time
>> > linux users? I like the cloud sync options, but I really don't trust
>> any
>> > of these companies fully, and would like something easier to sync with
>> > across platforms minus a cloud.
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance!
>> >
>> > -mb
>> >
>> --
>> #
>> # "Civilisation is a race between education and catastrophe" -- H.G.
>> Wells
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