Am 21. Nov, 2019 schwätzte Stephen Partington so:
moin moin,
> Do your best to avoid a mac with the t2 security chip. That basically
> renders the SSD useless.
Hadn't heard of that. Thanks for the heads up.
> I would also suggest you run refind for your boot. It will make life
> easier for you to swap back and forth for firmware updates.
Hopefully I won't have to do much of that.
ciao,
der.hans
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 5:36 PM Matt Graham <mhgraham@crow202.org> wrote:
>
>> On 2019-11-21 16:34, der.hans wrote:
>>> Is it really, really easy to install and run debian and Ubuntu on
>>> Apple
>>> laptops nowdays? Everything works? Networking, sound, hibernate, etc.?
>>
>> It was slightly annoying to run Gentoo on an older OS X machine. Part
>> of this was because it's Gentoo. Part of this was because it was 2017
>> and they've figured out a lot more stuff now. I had no problems with
>> wired networking, but wireless required some fooling around with kernel
>> modules that weren't marked stable yet. The whole experience was a lot
>> like the Lenovo E595 install I did a few months back in that everything
>> eventually worked, it just took more time than I would've liked.
>> https://github.com/Dunedan/mbp-2016-linux says they are having trouble
>> with sound on the really new machines, but lots of other stuff works at
>> least partially.
>>
>>> Does Apple hardware also have UEFI and other misfeatures?
>>
>> Yes. rEFInd worked reasonably well for me so long as you don't need to
>> change your kernel boot parameters all the time.
>>
>>> Are there any decent Apple laptops that have AMD processors?
>>
>> Not AFAICT.
>>
>>> Can you add more RAM or are you stuck with whatever it came with
>>
>> I believe you're stuck with whatever it came with. ICBW.
>>
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