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Author: Carruth, Rusty
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To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: RE: rm
Nope, you didn’t break anything. For some reason, they called it ‘smartmontools’, so use that instead of smartctl in the apt-get command.

(Actually, at one level smartmontools makes sense as a name, but it makes remembering what to type a bit harder when doing the apt-get…)

Rusty

From: PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Michael
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 6:35 PM
To: PLUG
Subject: Re: rm

 I think I broke it!

bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sudo hdparm -a /dev/sdc
[sudo] password for bmike1:

/dev/sdc:
 readahead     = 256 (on)
bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdc
sudo: smartctl: command not found
bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdc
sudo: smartctl: command not found
bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sudo apt install smartctl
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package smartctl is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'smartctl' has no installation candidate
bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $


On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 12:24 PM Carruth, Rusty <<mailto:Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com>> wrote:
Running hdparm -a /dev/sda on one of my machines:

smartctl 6.2 2013-07-26 r3841 [x86_64-linux-3.13.0-24-generic] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-13, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org<http://www.smartmontools.org>

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family:     Seagate Constellation ES.3
Device Model:     ST1000NM0033-9ZM173
…
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
….
Self-test execution status:      (   0) The previous self-test routine completed
…
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME          FLAG     VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE      UPDATED  WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate     0x010f   084   063   ---    Pre-fail  Always       -       235752913
  3 Spin_Up_Time            0x0103   096   096   ---    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  4 Start_Stop_Count        0x0032   100   100   ---    Old_age   Always       -       41
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0133   100   100   ---    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate         0x000f   090   060   ---    Pre-fail  Always       -       983913522
  9 Power_On_Hours          0x0032   082   082   ---    Old_age   Always       -       15937
10 Spin_Retry_Count        0x0013   100   100   ---    Pre-fail  Always       -       0
12 Power_Cycle_Count       0x0032   100   100   ---    Old_age   Always       -       40
184 End-to-End_Error        0x0032   100   100   ---    Old_age   Always       -       0
187 Reported_Uncorrect      0x0032   100   100   ---    Old_age   Always       -       0
188 Command_Timeout         0x0032   100   100   ---    Old_age   Always       -       0
189 High_Fly_Writes         0x003a   100   100   ---    Old_age   Always       -       0
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   066   056   ---    Old_age   Always       -       34 (Min/Max 29/39)
191 G-Sense_Error_Rate      0x0032   100   100   ---    Old_age   Always       -       0
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   ---    Old_age   Always       -       39
193 Load_Cycle_Count        0x0032   100   100   ---    Old_age   Always       -       1651
194 Temperature_Celsius     0x0022   034   044   ---    Old_age   Always       -       34 (0 22 0 0 0)
195 Hardware_ECC_Recovered  0x001a   050   014   ---    Old_age   Always       -       235752913
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032   000   000   ---    Old_age   Always       -       21845
197 Current_Pending_Sector  0x0012   100   100   ---    Old_age   Always       -       0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable   0x0010   100   100   ---    Old_age   Offline      -       0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count    0x003e   200   200   ---    Old_age   Always       -       0
240 Head_Flying_Hours       0x0000   100   253   ---    Old_age   Offline      -       51784420702786
241 Total_LBAs_Written      0x0000   100   253   ---    Old_age   Offline      -       79938736737
242 Total_LBAs_Read         0x0000   100   253   ---    Old_age   Offline      -       90381241252

SMART Error Log Version: 1
No Errors Logged
…

Notice that we have ‘pre-fail’ and ‘old-age’ above, and especially the ‘Overall-health self-assessment’.  That one is the one that the BIOS checks to see if the drive is dying.

The important ones in the above list, from the point of view of failure alerting (IMHO), are reallocated sector count (5), raw read error rate (1), attributes 10-188, hardware ecc recovered (195), reallocated event count (196), offline uncorrectable (198).  (If you see a lot of UDMA CRC Errors, that’s probably a cabling issue, assuming I actually understand what the vendor is using that attribute for!).

First, let me back up and say that, since there were no errors logged, this drive is PROBABLY happy and not going to fail ‘real soon’.  But, the raw read error and seek error rates aren’t as low as I’d like.  On the other hand, this IS a rotating drive, so maybe that’s normal.  On the other hand, I compared that drive with another rotator, and that other one has 0 raw read errors, 0 reallocated sectors, 0 seek errors, 0 reallocated events, 0 offline uncorrectable, etc.  The second one has been running 21,596 hours.

A third drive has similar zeros for errors, but yet has had 8 errors:

ATA Error Count: 8 (device log contains only the most recent five errors)
…
Powered_Up_Time is measured from power on, and printed as
DDd+hh:mm:SS.sss where DD=days, hh=hours, mm=minutes,
SS=sec, and sss=millisec. It "wraps" after 49.710 days.

Error 8 occurred at disk power-on lifetime: 5610 hours (233 days + 18 hours)
  When the command that caused the error occurred, the device was active or idle.

  After command completion occurred, registers were:
  ER ST SC SN CL CH DH
  -- -- -- -- -- -- --
  84 51 18 2d aa 03 e0  Error: ICRC, ABRT at LBA = 0x0003aa2d = 240173

  Commands leading to the command that caused the error were:
  CR FR SC SN CL CH DH DC   Powered_Up_Time  Command/Feature_Name
  -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  ----------------  --------------------
  ca 00 28 1d aa 03 e0 08  48d+06:41:01.204  WRITE DMA

Anyway, watch these numbers, and if they start changing much start looking for a replacement disk ☺  If you start getting lots of errors in the error log, that’s probably significant also.

Rusty

From: PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org<mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org>] On Behalf Of Michael
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 11:00 AM
To: PLUG
Subject: Re: rm

What do the p r e f a i l attributes look like?

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018, 00:28 Carruth, Rusty <<mailto:Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com> wrote:
You might want to check syslog (or messages) to see if the drive is getting errors.  (which is to say, getting ready to die)

Or use smartctl -a to see what the SMART attributes say (look for the ‘pre-fail’ attributes).  Or, best, do both.


Rusty


From: PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org<mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org>] On Behalf Of Michael
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2018 8:50 AM
To: PLUG
Subject: Re: rm

I ran fsck. It just returned through. So then I reformatted it with gparted. So all is well (I guess). I did have to restart the computer after the reformat though (don't remember why) but everything seemed okay. Oh yeaaaaa! I think I had to restart it because it would not unmount and I figured I would try to restart it and if it would gracefully do so it would be good. And it did and upon restart the drive auto mounted.


On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 11:56 PM Eric Oyen <<mailto:eric.oyen@icloud.com>> wrote:
Ok, unmount the drive, then run
Sudo fsck <your device here>
When completed, remount and then try to remove the files using:
Sudo rm -rf <name of files here>

-Eric


On Nov 21, 2018, at 8:53 PM, Michael <<mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>> wrote:

this is interesting: I tried accessing 'Neil' from the GUI but get an error:
Sorry, could not display all the contents of "Neil": Error when getting information for file '/media/bmike1/Seagate Expansion Drive/Documents/Business/CablingJobs/Neil/IMG_20150205_180721.jpg': Input/output error)
and when I attempt to access it from a tty get:
 $ ls Neil/
ls: cannot access 'Neil/IMG_20150205_180604.jpg': Input/output error
ls: cannot access 'Neil/IMG_20150205_180721.jpg': Input/output error
ls: cannot access 'Neil/IMG_20150205_180827.jpg': Input/output error
ls: cannot access 'Neil/IMG_20150205_180903.jpg': Input/output error
ls: cannot access 'Neil/IMG_20150205_180917.jpg': Input/output error
ls: cannot access 'Neil/quote.docx': Input/output error
IMG_20150205_180559.jpg  IMG_20150205_180827.jpg  quote.docx
IMG_20150205_180604.jpg  IMG_20150205_180903.jpg
IMG_20150205_180721.jpg  IMG_20150205_180917.jpg


On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 10:44 PM Michael <<mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>> wrote:
how do I delete the following files>?

 /media/bmike1/Seagate Expansion Drive/Documents/Business/CablingJobs $ sudo rm -rf Neil/
rm: cannot remove 'Neil/IMG_20150205_180604.jpg': Input/output error
rm: cannot remove 'Neil/IMG_20150205_180721.jpg': Input/output error
rm: cannot remove 'Neil/IMG_20150205_180827.jpg': Input/output error
rm: cannot remove 'Neil/IMG_20150205_180903.jpg': Input/output error
rm: cannot remove 'Neil/IMG_20150205_180917.jpg': Input/output error
rm: cannot remove 'Neil/quote.docx': Input/output error

these are the only files on the drive.

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