Re: NVMe: was Building a Linux Computer?

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Author: Steve Litt
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To: plug-discuss
Subject: Re: NVMe: was Building a Linux Computer?
Knowing my luck I'd lose that USB drive (I assume you mean a thumb
drive, not a USB connected spinner). Am I correct that /boot on the
thumb drive would slow the boot process, but everything after early
boot would take place at NVMe speed? I'm not particularly choosy about
boot speed. Go make a cup of tea.

Thanks,

SteveT

On Fri, 25 May 2018 12:57:45 -0700
Brian Cluff <> wrote:

> You can always get a physically very small USB drive and put /boot
> and the boot block on that.  Then everything else can go on the NVMe.
>
> Brian Cluff
>
> On 05/25/2018 12:17 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> > Maybe you can get a rip-roaring machine, but how so if that post
> > 2005 computer can't boot of NVMe? What do you do, take the UEFI
> > info and the /boot off another drive, and use the NVMe for / ? Or
> > do you boot off another drive, and then carve up the (assumedly
> > small) NVMe into /usr, /lib, /run ? Life gets a lot more
> > complicated if the machine can't boot the NVMe.
> >
> > SteveT
> >
> > On Wed, 23 May 2018 01:16:21 -0700
> > Eric Oyen <> wrote:
> >
> >> well, the beauty about the "add-in" cards is that you can use any
> >> PCI-e slot on just about any desktop that is newer than vintage
> >> 2005. YYou will end up with a rip-roaring fast machine. :)
> >>
> >> -eric
> >>
> >> On May 22, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Carruth, Rusty wrote:
> >>
> >>> Oohh! Oohh!! Something I can answer :-)
> >>>
> >>> 1 - yes and no. Yes, you can replace, but no, you (almost
> >>> certainly) need to get a PCIe card which converts PCIe on the
> >>> motherboard to NVMe on the ssd. We have one of those at work, not
> >>> too expensive as I recall.
> >>>
> >>> 2 - You should be able to. Don't know if that's implemented or
> >>> not.
> >>>
> >>> 3 - /dev/nvme0n1 as an example. So, for SATA, its /dev/sd<x> for
> >>> nvme, you get a /dev/nvme0 and then you get /dev/nvme0n1 for the
> >>> actual drive, as I remember. I don't remember what the partitions
> >>> turn up as, but I THINK they were /dev/nvme0n1p1 or something like
> >>> that. A second NVMe drive would be /dev/nvme0n2 I think.
> >>>
> >>> 4 - it should. Now, you MIGHT need some updated stuff, for
> >>> example smartctl may or may not work with NVMe on your distro.
> >>> And you'll probably need to download the nvme tool that gives you
> >>> control sort of like hdparm. Using an 'old' distribution might
> >>> be a problem (for some value of 'old')
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: PLUG-discuss
> >>> [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of
> >>> Steve Litt Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 2:30 PM To:
> >>> Subject: NVMe: was Building a
> >>> Linux Computer?
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 22 May 2018 13:57:29 -0700
> >>> Brian Cluff <> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> For me, I would get a system that can use a NVMe. They are about
> >>>> the same price as an SSD, but make and SSD look extremely slow.
> >>> This is the first I've heard of NVMe. I just read
> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVM_Express , and now have some
> >>> questions:
> >>>
> >>> 1) Can I replace the spinning platter 2.5" hard disk in my 5 year
> >>> old laptop with an NVMe device? My research tells me an NVMe must
> >>> plug into a PCIe slot rather than a SATA slot.
> >>>
> >>> 2) Do you fstrim NVMe-hosted partitions the same way you do for
> >>> SSD?
> >>>
> >>> 3) When you install an NVMe card in a PCIe slot, what device name
> >>> shows up? Is it sd-whatever, or something else?
> >>>
> >>> 4) If my desktop has a free PCIe slot, does that mean I can plug
> >>> in an NVIe drive and use it?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> SteveT
> >>>
> >>> Steve Litt
> >>> June 2018 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
> >>> http://www.troubleshooters.com/28
> >>>
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