Knowing my luck I'd lose that USB drive (I assume you mean a thumb drive, not a USB connected spinner). Am I correct that /boot on the thumb drive would slow the boot process, but everything after early boot would take place at NVMe speed? I'm not particularly choosy about boot speed. Go make a cup of tea. Thanks, SteveT On Fri, 25 May 2018 12:57:45 -0700 Brian Cluff wrote: > You can always get a physically very small USB drive and put /boot > and the boot block on that.  Then everything else can go on the NVMe. > > Brian Cluff > > On 05/25/2018 12:17 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > Maybe you can get a rip-roaring machine, but how so if that post > > 2005 computer can't boot of NVMe? What do you do, take the UEFI > > info and the /boot off another drive, and use the NVMe for / ? Or > > do you boot off another drive, and then carve up the (assumedly > > small) NVMe into /usr, /lib, /run ? Life gets a lot more > > complicated if the machine can't boot the NVMe. > > > > SteveT > > > > On Wed, 23 May 2018 01:16:21 -0700 > > Eric Oyen wrote: > > > >> well, the beauty about the "add-in" cards is that you can use any > >> PCI-e slot on just about any desktop that is newer than vintage > >> 2005. YYou will end up with a rip-roaring fast machine. :) > >> > >> -eric > >> > >> On May 22, 2018, at 2:43 PM, Carruth, Rusty wrote: > >> > >>> Oohh! Oohh!! Something I can answer :-) > >>> > >>> 1 - yes and no. Yes, you can replace, but no, you (almost > >>> certainly) need to get a PCIe card which converts PCIe on the > >>> motherboard to NVMe on the ssd. We have one of those at work, not > >>> too expensive as I recall. > >>> > >>> 2 - You should be able to. Don't know if that's implemented or > >>> not. > >>> > >>> 3 - /dev/nvme0n1 as an example. So, for SATA, its /dev/sd for > >>> nvme, you get a /dev/nvme0 and then you get /dev/nvme0n1 for the > >>> actual drive, as I remember. I don't remember what the partitions > >>> turn up as, but I THINK they were /dev/nvme0n1p1 or something like > >>> that. A second NVMe drive would be /dev/nvme0n2 I think. > >>> > >>> 4 - it should. Now, you MIGHT need some updated stuff, for > >>> example smartctl may or may not work with NVMe on your distro. > >>> And you'll probably need to download the nvme tool that gives you > >>> control sort of like hdparm. Using an 'old' distribution might > >>> be a problem (for some value of 'old') > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: PLUG-discuss > >>> [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] On Behalf Of > >>> Steve Litt Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2018 2:30 PM To: > >>> plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Subject: NVMe: was Building a > >>> Linux Computer? > >>> > >>> On Tue, 22 May 2018 13:57:29 -0700 > >>> Brian Cluff wrote: > >>> > >>>> For me, I would get a system that can use a NVMe. They are about > >>>> the same price as an SSD, but make and SSD look extremely slow. > >>> This is the first I've heard of NVMe. I just read > >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NVM_Express , and now have some > >>> questions: > >>> > >>> 1) Can I replace the spinning platter 2.5" hard disk in my 5 year > >>> old laptop with an NVMe device? My research tells me an NVMe must > >>> plug into a PCIe slot rather than a SATA slot. > >>> > >>> 2) Do you fstrim NVMe-hosted partitions the same way you do for > >>> SSD? > >>> > >>> 3) When you install an NVMe card in a PCIe slot, what device name > >>> shows up? Is it sd-whatever, or something else? > >>> > >>> 4) If my desktop has a free PCIe slot, does that mean I can plug > >>> in an NVIe drive and use it? > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> SteveT > >>> > >>> Steve Litt > >>> June 2018 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting > >>> http://www.troubleshooters.com/28 > >>> > >>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------- > >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >>> --------------------------------------------------- > >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >> --------------------------------------------------- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss