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Author: Jerry Snitselaar
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Subject: Re: Building a Linux Computer?
On Wed May 23 18, Stephen Partington wrote:
>In My experience you spend more time waiting on bios than on the OS to
>load. the real boost is when you have heavy disk IO and DB workloads are
>crazy fast.
>


Most of my time is spent working with git and dealing with various
branches of the kernel, and the speed up was quite noticable when
I moved from a sata based ssd to an m.2 nvme drive (Samsung evo 960).


>On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:57 PM, <> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I wonder about the NVMe vs SSD. I have and SSD in my desktop and it boots
>> much faster than my Laptop that has NVMe. They are not totally the same,
>> however I think they are close enough. I think some of the performance is
>> based on who made the NVMe or SSD.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2018-05-22 13:57, Brian Cluff wrote:
>>
>>> For me, I would get a system that can use a NVMe. They are about the
>>> same price as an SSD, but make and SSD look extremely slow.
>>>
>>> If you don't need it to be portable, then go with a desktop system.
>>> They are much cheaper for the amount of power you get, are tougher so
>>> they will last you longer, upgrade-able so they will last you longer.
>>> They also offer much better cooling so when you are running the CPU at
>>> it's maximum speed that it will actually be able to keep cool enough
>>> to stay running at it's maximum speed without having to throttle
>>> itself down to less than half the speed in order to not burn up, and
>>> the same thing can be said of the GPU.
>>>
>>> My 6 year old desktop is faster than the fastest laptop you can get
>>> new now and it cost me about half what a high end laptop would cost.
>>> Getting a system with an NVMe is one of the biggest driving forces for
>>> making me want to get a new system these days... they are just so
>>> crazy fast that they really make your system feel like a rocket
>>> compared to the same machine with even a SATA attached SSD.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> On 05/22/2018 03:27 AM, wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> If I were to build a work system today, I would take the following road.
>>>>
>>>> I would go with a laptop with an SSD, at least an i5, an upgraded video
>>>> card like nvidia instead of the video built in the CPU, and I would go with
>>>> something that had decent resolution.
>>>>
>>>> A laptop like this one : http://www.dell.com/en-us/work
>>>> /shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/vostro-15-5000/spd/vostro-
>>>> 15-5568-laptop/cav155w10p18s038
>>>>
>>>> I'd add an external backup drive, an external keyboard, an external
>>>> mouse, and I'd add 2 external flat screen monitors of around 21 inches each.
>>>>
>>>> Two of the reasons I moved back to Windows after running Linux Mint for
>>>> 4 or 5 years was I was not able to take advantage of the screen share
>>>> utilities such as Go-To-Meetings and I wanted my printer to be plug and
>>>> play so I can use all it's features.
>>>>
>>>> At one point I was running a laptop with one external flat screen.
>>>> Makes a lot of sense, since you are doing everything on one box that is
>>>> also mobile.
>>>>
>>>> And I think moving as much as you can to the cloud is a good thing.
>>>>
>>>> Now this configuration is what fits my needs. What are your needs? Are
>>>> you editing images or videos? Are you a developer? Or are you researching
>>>> Linux, or is your research about external things?
>>>>
>>>> For a simple configuration I'd go with a cheap used laptop with an i3
>>>> and bottom of the line resolution, add and SSD, add Mint, add an external
>>>> backup drive.
>>>>
>>>> I have 3 or 4 of these SSDs and they are on sale :
>>>> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820147676
>>>>
>>>> I have two cheap used laptop running these. Great performance and as I
>>>> recall they have a 5 year warrantee. I use one as a Linux web server for
>>>> testing. The other I might use for an experiment. I'd like to load Mint on
>>>> it and see how far I can push the cloud. I'd like to do everything
>>>> external, using mostly free stuff. I do some video editing so I may need a
>>>> little more power.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2018-05-21 19:30, mike enriquez wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am planing to build a Linux computer. I have Ubuntu 16.0 on an old
>>>>> Dell XPS. I will be using it as my research computer. So "I will be
>>>>> going where where others do not dare to go." I want a VPN on it
>>>>> because I have not been able to install a VPN on the computer I now
>>>>> have. I want a 64bit OS.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that most people say to use and old computer to run Linux. I
>>>>> need ideas on Hardware to avoid and use. What would you do if you had
>>>>> to build your own Linux computer from scratch?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Enriquez
>>>>>
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>rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button.
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>Stephen


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