I'm just about to take a reading and then run stress again. It is pretty
> Well, those temperatures are not that hot, but that doesn't mean some
> cooling wouldn't improve things.
> Have you popped the case off and pointed a big fan in there and tried to
> reproduce the crash yet?
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:21 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here is around 180 seconds of readings at around 10 second intervals (if
>> it helps):
>>
>> $ sensors
>> radeon-pci-0100
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +74.5°C
>>
>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +51.5°C (high = +70.0°C)
>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>
>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>> radeon-pci-0100
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +75.5°C
>>
>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +51.0°C (high = +70.0°C)
>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>
>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>> radeon-pci-0100
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +75.5°C
>>
>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +51.0°C (high = +70.0°C)
>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>
>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>> radeon-pci-0100
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +75.5°C
>>
>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +51.4°C (high = +70.0°C)
>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>
>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>> radeon-pci-0100
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +75.0°C
>>
>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +51.2°C (high = +70.0°C)
>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>
>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>> radeon-pci-0100
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +75.5°C
>>
>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +51.0°C (high = +70.0°C)
>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>
>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>> radeon-pci-0100
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +75.5°C
>>
>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +51.5°C (high = +70.0°C)
>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>
>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>> radeon-pci-0100
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +75.0°C
>>
>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +50.9°C (high = +70.0°C)
>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>
>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>> radeon-pci-0100
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +75.5°C
>>
>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +53.6°C (high = +70.0°C)
>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>
>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>> radeon-pci-0100
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +75.0°C
>>
>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +52.4°C (high = +70.0°C)
>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>
>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>> radeon-pci-0100
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +75.0°C
>>
>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +51.8°C (high = +70.0°C)
>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>
>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>> radeon-pci-0100
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +74.5°C
>>
>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +51.1°C (high = +70.0°C)
>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>
>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>> radeon-pci-0100
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +74.5°C
>>
>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +51.0°C (high = +70.0°C)
>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>
>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>> radeon-pci-0100
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +74.5°C
>>
>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +52.0°C (high = +70.0°C)
>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>
>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>> radeon-pci-0100
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +74.0°C
>>
>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +50.6°C (high = +70.0°C)
>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>
>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>> radeon-pci-0100
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +74.5°C
>>
>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +51.4°C (high = +70.0°C)
>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>
>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>> radeon-pci-0100
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +75.0°C
>>
>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +51.8°C (high = +70.0°C)
>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>
>> bmike1@MikesBeast ~ $ sensors
>> radeon-pci-0100
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +75.0°C
>>
>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>> temp1: +51.9°C (high = +70.0°C)
>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Brien Dieterle <briend@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 30 mins is plenty for a test. Try to get sensors output just before a
>>> crash
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:25 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> how long do you want me to run glmark2 for? Forever is not feasible!
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> as for the shutoff point everything that had anything to do with
>>>>> cutting power was already diabled
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:20 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> $ sensors
>>>>>> radeon-pci-0100
>>>>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>>>>> temp1: +68.0°C
>>>>>>
>>>>>> k10temp-pci-00c3
>>>>>> Adapter: PCI adapter
>>>>>> temp1: +45.1°C (high = +70.0°C)
>>>>>> (crit = +72.0°C, hyst = +70.0°C)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Brien Dieterle <briend@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, it might be protecting your computer but if it is too low it
>>>>>>> will just be annoying.
>>>>>>> You still need to run sensors and get those numbers if you haven't
>>>>>>> yet:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/15832/how-do-i-get-the-cpu-t
>>>>>>> emperature
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If your machine is legitimately overheating you need to address that
>>>>>>> with fans and ventilation, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:59 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> if there is a shutoff point you did say disable it?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Brien Dieterle <briend@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Well, you're on the right track. Try to isolate whether glmark
>>>>>>>>> alone can crash it, or if you need stress as well. Then try opening up
>>>>>>>>> your case and point a fan in there.
>>>>>>>>> Also don't forget to check the BIOS for thermal management events
>>>>>>>>> that might be causing the shutdown/reboot.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> never mind..... I ran glmark around 5 minutes and then stress.
>>>>>>>>>> that crashed the machine! Not a nice reboot (like what it does with dt) but
>>>>>>>>>> a power failure outage,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and if glmark2 doesn't crash it run stress the same amount of
>>>>>>>>>>> time?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> how long do I let glmark2's pretty horse rotate?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> okay
>>>>>>>>>>>>> `
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Brien Dieterle <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> briend@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd wait. If stress alone doesn't crash, run glmark2 by
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itself. If glmark2 doesn't crash, run them both at the same time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run this now or after stress completes?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Brien Dieterle <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> briend@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, not yet ;-). If it doesn't crash, you might need to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress the graphics card as well with one of these tools:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.pcsuggest.com/gpu-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> benchmarking-and-stress-testing-in-linux/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So maybe kick off both stress and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> glmark2 --run-forever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if it doesn't crash I'll start hounding the darktable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forums.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:45 PM, Michael <bmike1@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just started..... lets see what happens
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Brien Dieterle <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> briend@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Forget darktable for now. Did you run stress test for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more than 10 seconds?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This will run a stress test for 30 minutes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --hdd 2 --timeout 1800s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can get it to crash with just this stress
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> program, then it has nothing to do with darktable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no sensors running and as for it panicing when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warm sometimes it panics after I run dt 2 minutes after it had been shut
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down an hour and doesn't panic even though dt had run10 minutes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Brien Dieterle <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> briend@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check your bios settings for hardware monitoring and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature limits. You may have it set with a maximum temperature so the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine panics when it's just warm.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try raising this number or disabling the feature
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entirely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But first check your sensors by installing a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature monitoring program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2017 1:04 PM, "Michael" <bmike1@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is sooo ify! I just ran it for like 10 minutes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with no crashes whereas before I had just started the computer and ran dt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for 2 minutes and it crashed. Then I restarted and I had a repeat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> performance of the 2 minute thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --vm-bytes 128M
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --timeout 10s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress: info: [7571] dispatching hogs: 8 cpu, 4 io,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 vm, 0 hdd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress: info: [7571] successful run completed in 10s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what that was suppossed to tell me but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am experiencing no slowness. It is like the days
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> where you had a power switch on the back of your computer... or it is like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a hard reboot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Stephen Partington
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <cryptworks@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenCL in darktable mainly impacts rendering. it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should have no effect on on system or ram consumption unless you are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiencing slowness during render cycles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know.... I'm having trouble running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> darktable. It seems that after I start it it runs a few minutes and then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reboots the computer. Probably because I do not have a GPU (I don't think).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then I saw this thread and thought that I'd give that a try. So it seems I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can not run chrome and darktable at the same time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ___
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'lspci' shows that my graphics card is :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV770 [Radeon HD 4850]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 'lspci|grep gpu' returned an empty set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (if I did that correctly)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so I suppose the cheapest way to fix this is to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get a gpu.... correct?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Carruth, Rusty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my experience, it’s almost always Firefox
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taking all of memory. (Or Chrome, or whatever web browser you’re using).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with Mr B, run top or htop and see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what’s, well, on top ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rusty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <rusty.carruth@smarth.com>* |
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.smarth.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* PLUG-discuss [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] *On
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Michael Butash
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 29, 2017 10:05 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: computer slow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I ever have that, it's usually because of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something with a memory leak, or desktop graphic compositing is degrading
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before you reboot, see if you can ssh into it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from another computer and check htop (or just top all you have), see if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something is consuming all your memory or cpu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Desktop compositors are all shite from what I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can tell (including windoze), they're all just a varying degree of broken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when you push them, or just have a slow (or buggy) video card. Depending
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on your desktop environment of choice, try turning down graphics options,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or disabling the compositor all together to see if it helps stability.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -mb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 3:41 AM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm almost certain that in my bag of tricks I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had instructions on 'resetting' my computer when it started acting weird
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I can't find them. Riddle me this: I try to leave the computer on 24/7
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (maybe I shouldn't do that) and twice so far I come up to it and it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-responsive or really slow to respond. Anyone know how to fix this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
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