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Author: Michael
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To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: computer slow
if there is a shutoff point you did say disable it?


On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Brien Dieterle <> wrote:

> Well, you're on the right track. Try to isolate whether glmark alone can
> crash it, or if you need stress as well. Then try opening up your case
> and point a fan in there.
> Also don't forget to check the BIOS for thermal management events that
> might be causing the shutdown/reboot.
>
> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:52 PM, Michael <> wrote:
>
>> never mind..... I ran glmark around 5 minutes and then stress. that
>> crashed the machine! Not a nice reboot (like what it does with dt) but a
>> power failure outage,
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Michael <> wrote:
>>
>>> and if glmark2 doesn't crash it run stress the same amount of time?
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:37 PM, Michael <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> how long do I let glmark2's pretty horse rotate?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:36 PM, Michael <> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> okay
>>>>> `
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 6:10 PM, Brien Dieterle <>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd wait. If stress alone doesn't crash, run glmark2 by itself. If
>>>>>> glmark2 doesn't crash, run them both at the same time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Michael <> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> run this now or after stress completes?
>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:59 PM, Brien Dieterle <>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, not yet ;-). If it doesn't crash, you might need to stress
>>>>>>>> the graphics card as well with one of these tools:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.pcsuggest.com/gpu-benchmarking-and-stress-testin
>>>>>>>> g-in-linux/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So maybe kick off both stress and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> glmark2 --run-forever
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Michael <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> if it doesn't crash I'll start hounding the darktable forums.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:45 PM, Michael <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just started..... lets see what happens
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Brien Dieterle <
>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Forget darktable for now. Did you run stress test for more than
>>>>>>>>>>> 10 seconds?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> This will run a stress test for 30 minutes:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --hdd 2 --timeout 1800s
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If you can get it to crash with just this stress program, then
>>>>>>>>>>> it has nothing to do with darktable
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 2:24 PM, Michael <>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I have no sensors running and as for it panicing when warm
>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes it panics after I run dt 2 minutes after it had been shut down an
>>>>>>>>>>>> hour and doesn't panic even though dt had run10 minutes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Brien Dieterle <
>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Check your bios settings for hardware monitoring and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> temperature limits. You may have it set with a maximum temperature so the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine panics when it's just warm.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Try raising this number or disabling the feature entirely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But first check your sensors by installing a temperature
>>>>>>>>>>>>> monitoring program
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 30, 2017 1:04 PM, "Michael" <> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is sooo ify! I just ran it for like 10 minutes with no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> crashes whereas before I had just started the computer and ran dt for 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes and it crashed. Then I restarted and I had a repeat performance of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the 2 minute thing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:38 PM, Michael <>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ stress --cpu 8 --io 4 --vm 2 --vm-bytes 128M --timeout 10s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress: info: [7571] dispatching hogs: 8 cpu, 4 io, 2 vm, 0
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hdd
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stress: info: [7571] successful run completed in 10s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what that was suppossed to tell me but there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Michael <>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am experiencing no slowness. It is like the days where
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you had a power switch on the back of your computer... or it is like a hard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reboot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Stephen Partington <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OpenCL in darktable mainly impacts rendering. it should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have no effect on on system or ram consumption unless you are experiencing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slowness during render cycles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You know.... I'm having trouble running darktable. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems that after I start it it runs a few minutes and then reboots the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer. Probably because I do not have a GPU (I don't think). Then I saw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this thread and thought that I'd give that a try. So it seems I can not run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chrome and darktable at the same time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ___
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'lspci' shows that my graphics card is :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV770 [Radeon HD 4850]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and 'lspci|grep gpu' returned an empty set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (if I did that correctly)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so I suppose the cheapest way to fix this is to get a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gpu.... correct?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Carruth, Rusty <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In my experience, it’s almost always Firefox taking all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of memory. (Or Chrome, or whatever web browser you’re using).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with Mr B, run top or htop and see what’s, well,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on top ;-)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *From:* PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@l
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ists.phxlinux.org] *On Behalf Of *Michael Butash
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, October 29, 2017 10:05 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: computer slow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If I ever have that, it's usually because of something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with a memory leak, or desktop graphic compositing is degrading over time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before you reboot, see if you can ssh into it from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another computer and check htop (or just top all you have), see if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something is consuming all your memory or cpu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Desktop compositors are all shite from what I can tell
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (including windoze), they're all just a varying degree of broken when you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> push them, or just have a slow (or buggy) video card. Depending on your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desktop environment of choice, try turning down graphics options, or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabling the compositor all together to see if it helps stability.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -mb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 29, 2017 at 3:41 AM, Michael <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm almost certain that in my bag of tricks I had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> instructions on 'resetting' my computer when it started acting weird but I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can't find them. Riddle me this: I try to leave the computer on 24/7 (maybe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I shouldn't do that) and twice so far I come up to it and it is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-responsive or really slow to respond. Anyone know how to fix this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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