Check it out... Contrast app.
http://leaverou.github.io/contrast-ratio/
On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 10:19 PM, Kaoru Wilbur <
m.kaoru.wilbur@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I saw there was something for Open Office, I'll have to look for it.
> Look at this - this is on the right track!
>
> http://sonargnulinux.com/
>
> Eye tracking software for usability!
>
> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Ed <plug@0x1b.com> wrote:
>
>> Google has a Accessibility Scanner for Android:
>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.and
>> roid.apps.accessibility.auditor&hl=en
>> and the home site:
>> https://www.google.com/accessibility/
>>
>> I have not used it yet, but it looks like a good addition to any
>> deployment pipeline.
>>
>> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Kaoru Wilbur <m.kaoru.wilbur@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > You could also try siteimprove.
>> > They also have a free extension for chrome. but charge for the service
>> > otherwise. We use that here too.
>> >
>> > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Kaoru Wilbur <
>> m.kaoru.wilbur@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Eric ,
>> >>
>> >> Since you are on the West side... Anyway, there are a few things we can
>> >> discuss here.
>> >> first... if you are interested in getting involved with the w3c group
>> for
>> >> wcag ( Web Content Accessibility Guidelines) there are a couple of
>> groups
>> >> you can join. The groups on W3c itself are closed to the public. If
>> you work
>> >> for a certain organization that is listed as part of their community
>> effort,
>> >> then, you can possibly get in. An easier way to contribute is to join
>> them
>> >> on Github.
>> >> There is a w3c wcag and ARIA. Changes, edits, etc are done there for
>> >> standards.
>> >>
>> >> As far as Drupal is concerned, I wasn't really impressed by their
>> modules
>> >> relevant to accessibility. Of course, maybe I wasn't looking in the
>> right
>> >> place but. Yea.
>> >>
>> >> 3rd party plugin tool.
>> >> One tool I use to check content for accessibility is Wave. This does a
>> >> pretty good check of accessibility items.
>> >>
>> >> now, that being said, something that works during the html generation
>> >> process or html "writing" process would be nice. If you know of
>> anything,
>> >> let me know.
>> >>
>> >> I am also involved in a project that is a debian based distro .for
>> >> accessibility but that is a long time coming as the tools are seriously
>> >> lacking.
>> >> Those who have good tools charge a lot of money and I would personally
>> >> like to see more open source projects with regard to accessibility -
>> like
>> >> the ones adafruit have listed that hans linked to earlier in this
>> thread.
>> >>
>> >> We really need better tools.
>> >> If you look at the tools listed in the W3c accessibility area, many are
>> >> out of date, obsolete, abandoned or not working.
>> >> For example, if you find a good tool for contrast - let me know.
>> >> There are some that are very simple. However, I think there could be
>> much
>> >> better tools and utilities for accessibility.
>> >>
>> >> Blind is definitely one are but there are many other visually impaired
>> to
>> >> consider - that is where contrast comes in, right.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:22 PM, Eric Oyen <eric.oyen@icloud.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I would like to go myself, but I am in need of a ride from the west
>> side.
>> >>> There are just times when I hate living so far away from the center of
>> >>> things.
>> >>>
>> >>> -eric
>> >>> From the central office of the Technomage Guild, Dept of monorail
>> >>> development.
>> >>>
>> >>> On May 24, 2017, at 10:38 PM, Kaoru Wilbur wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> So I actually work with Drupal and have some experience wrt
>> accessibility
>> >>> at the University. I'll be at coffee hour tomorrow if anyone wants to
>> chat
>> >>> more about Drupal and accessibility - some tools for WCAG compliance -
>> >>> contrast tools (how they are not working great) and what we are doing
>> at the
>> >>> W3c wrt accessibility and how you can get involved.
>> >>>
>> >>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 2:30 PM, der.hans <PLUGd@lufthans.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Am 19. May, 2017 schwätzte der.hans so:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> moin moin,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> and another device popped up.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> https://plus.google.com/+adafruit/posts/6NH2VfeutQ1
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ciao,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> der.hans
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Am 29. Apr, 2017 schwätzte Eric Oyen so:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> moin moin,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> a post about a real-time braille converter from MIT reminds me that
>> I
>> >>>>> didn't report back on the demo for the accessible web-authoring
>> tool.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Here's the braille converter post.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> https://plus.google.com/+adafruit/posts/eLygbwBhra2
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> The demo ended up using WordPress and was well received. The
>> committee
>> >>>>> was
>> >>>>> impressed, but it will be some time before an official response is
>> >>>>> given.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks again for the feedback. It was quite helpful.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ciao,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> der.hans
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> well, here is a suggestion from one of the blind users of Linux who
>> >>>>>> does a lot of web authoring.. Der Hands, you got this one?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> -eric
>> >>>>>> from the central office of the Technomage Huild, Datasphere
>> projects
>> >>>>>> office
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: accessible web-authoring system
>> >>>>>>> Date: April 29, 2017 4:20:51 AM MST
>> >>>>>>> To: blinux-list@redhat.com
>> >>>>>>> Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Tony Baechler here. I'm sure others will chime in, but here are my
>> >>>>>>> thoughts:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> 1. The most accessible is plain, static HTML. Obviously not
>> practical
>> >>>>>>> for large sites, but for a few pages, it's good enough.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> 2. WordPress is the most popular. It's generally very accessible.
>> >>>>>>> There are things which could be made better, but it's good enough
>> to design
>> >>>>>>> decent sites. I ran a podcast with it.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> 3. Drupal is also very good, but the latest major release (8.0.X)
>> is
>> >>>>>>> very difficult to use and far from accessible unless I missed
>> something
>> >>>>>>> obvious. I had it running on a server and it was so bad that I
>> gave up. 7.X
>> >>>>>>> should be better, but will reach end of life in a year or two and
>> only gets
>> >>>>>>> bug and security fixes.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Joomla is very inaccessible and should absolutely be avoided. I
>> >>>>>>> couldn't do anything with it, but that was a long time ago. The
>> key is if
>> >>>>>>> the admin interface is accessible or not. I would go with
>> WordPress due to
>> >>>>>>> the huge number of themes, frequent updates and overall decent
>> >>>>>>> accessibility.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Another option is wiki software. There are a lot of wiki packages
>> out
>> >>>>>>> there. I liked ikiwiki when I looked at it. It obviously depends
>> on the site
>> >>>>>>> you're designing. Of the above, I think only ikiwiki is fully
>> accessible
>> >>>>>>> with a text browser, but WordPress is tolerable. You can do most
>> functions
>> >>>>>>> with wp-cli if you like the command line. Drupal has drush, but I
>> couldn't
>> >>>>>>> get it to work. WordPress is much easier to upgrade and can do
>> minor updates
>> >>>>>>> itself.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 4/28/2017 3:43 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> hey guys,
>> >>>>>>>> I forwarded this over from the Phoenix Linux Users Group. Perhaps
>> >>>>>>>> one of us can help out?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> -eric
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> From: "der.hans" <PLUGd@LuftHans.com>
>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: accessible web-authoring system
>> >>>>>>>>> Date: April 28, 2017 12:32:48 PM MST
>> >>>>>>>>> To: quatsch <PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>
>> >>>>>>>>> Reply-To: Main PLUG discussion list
>> >>>>>>>>> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> moin moin,
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> anyone have experience with an accessible Free Software
>> >>>>>>>>> web-authoring
>> >>>>>>>>> system?
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> A friend works in accessibiilty ( all sorts of physical and
>> mental
>> >>>>>>>>> handicaps ) and is asking for a recommendation.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> I presume Drupal, Joomla! and WordPress have plugins to help,
>> but I
>> >>>>>>>>> have
>> >>>>>>>>> no experience. The closest thing I have to experience is demos
>> from
>> >>>>>>>>> some
>> >>>>>>>>> blind guys using emacs for their own infrastructure. Amazing,
>> but
>> >>>>>>>>> not the
>> >>>>>>>>> first thing to suggest.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
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