I saw there was something for Open Office, I'll have to look for it.Look at this - this is on the right track!Eye tracking software for usability!On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Ed <plug@0x1b.com> wrote:Google has a Accessibility Scanner for Android:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.and roid.apps.accessibility.audito r&hl=en
and the home site:
https://www.google.com/accessibility/
I have not used it yet, but it looks like a good addition to any
deployment pipeline.
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Kaoru Wilbur <m.kaoru.wilbur@gmail.com> wrote:
> You could also try siteimprove.
> They also have a free extension for chrome. but charge for the service
> otherwise. We use that here too.
>
> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Kaoru Wilbur <m.kaoru.wilbur@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Eric ,
>>
>> Since you are on the West side... Anyway, there are a few things we can
>> discuss here.
>> first... if you are interested in getting involved with the w3c group for
>> wcag ( Web Content Accessibility Guidelines) there are a couple of groups
>> you can join. The groups on W3c itself are closed to the public. If you work
>> for a certain organization that is listed as part of their community effort,
>> then, you can possibly get in. An easier way to contribute is to join them
>> on Github.
>> There is a w3c wcag and ARIA. Changes, edits, etc are done there for
>> standards.
>>
>> As far as Drupal is concerned, I wasn't really impressed by their modules
>> relevant to accessibility. Of course, maybe I wasn't looking in the right
>> place but. Yea.
>>
>> 3rd party plugin tool.
>> One tool I use to check content for accessibility is Wave. This does a
>> pretty good check of accessibility items.
>>
>> now, that being said, something that works during the html generation
>> process or html "writing" process would be nice. If you know of anything,
>> let me know.
>>
>> I am also involved in a project that is a debian based distro .for
>> accessibility but that is a long time coming as the tools are seriously
>> lacking.
>> Those who have good tools charge a lot of money and I would personally
>> like to see more open source projects with regard to accessibility - like
>> the ones adafruit have listed that hans linked to earlier in this thread.
>>
>> We really need better tools.
>> If you look at the tools listed in the W3c accessibility area, many are
>> out of date, obsolete, abandoned or not working.
>> For example, if you find a good tool for contrast - let me know.
>> There are some that are very simple. However, I think there could be much
>> better tools and utilities for accessibility.
>>
>> Blind is definitely one are but there are many other visually impaired to
>> consider - that is where contrast comes in, right.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:22 PM, Eric Oyen <eric.oyen@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would like to go myself, but I am in need of a ride from the west side.
>>> There are just times when I hate living so far away from the center of
>>> things.
>>>
>>> -eric
>>> From the central office of the Technomage Guild, Dept of monorail
>>> development.
>>>
>>> On May 24, 2017, at 10:38 PM, Kaoru Wilbur wrote:
>>>
>>> So I actually work with Drupal and have some experience wrt accessibility
>>> at the University. I'll be at coffee hour tomorrow if anyone wants to chat
>>> more about Drupal and accessibility - some tools for WCAG compliance -
>>> contrast tools (how they are not working great) and what we are doing at the
>>> W3c wrt accessibility and how you can get involved.
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 2:30 PM, der.hans <PLUGd@lufthans.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Am 19. May, 2017 schwätzte der.hans so:
>>>>
>>>> moin moin,
>>>>
>>>> and another device popped up.
>>>>
>>>> https://plus.google.com/+adafruit/posts/6NH2VfeutQ1
>>>>
>>>> ciao,
>>>>
>>>> der.hans
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Am 29. Apr, 2017 schwätzte Eric Oyen so:
>>>>>
>>>>> moin moin,
>>>>>
>>>>> a post about a real-time braille converter from MIT reminds me that I
>>>>> didn't report back on the demo for the accessible web-authoring tool.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's the braille converter post.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://plus.google.com/+adafruit/posts/eLygbwBhra2
>>>>>
>>>>> The demo ended up using WordPress and was well received. The committee
>>>>> was
>>>>> impressed, but it will be some time before an official response is
>>>>> given.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again for the feedback. It was quite helpful.
>>>>>
>>>>> ciao,
>>>>>
>>>>> der.hans
>>>>>
>>>>>> well, here is a suggestion from one of the blind users of Linux who
>>>>>> does a lot of web authoring.. Der Hands, you got this one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -eric
>>>>>> from the central office of the Technomage Huild, Datasphere projects
>>>>>> office
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: accessible web-authoring system
>>>>>>> Date: April 29, 2017 4:20:51 AM MST
>>>>>>> To: blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>>>>> Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tony Baechler here. I'm sure others will chime in, but here are my
>>>>>>> thoughts:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1. The most accessible is plain, static HTML. Obviously not practical
>>>>>>> for large sites, but for a few pages, it's good enough.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2. WordPress is the most popular. It's generally very accessible.
>>>>>>> There are things which could be made better, but it's good enough to design
>>>>>>> decent sites. I ran a podcast with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 3. Drupal is also very good, but the latest major release (8.0.X) is
>>>>>>> very difficult to use and far from accessible unless I missed something
>>>>>>> obvious. I had it running on a server and it was so bad that I gave up. 7.X
>>>>>>> should be better, but will reach end of life in a year or two and only gets
>>>>>>> bug and security fixes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joomla is very inaccessible and should absolutely be avoided. I
>>>>>>> couldn't do anything with it, but that was a long time ago. The key is if
>>>>>>> the admin interface is accessible or not. I would go with WordPress due to
>>>>>>> the huge number of themes, frequent updates and overall decent
>>>>>>> accessibility.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another option is wiki software. There are a lot of wiki packages out
>>>>>>> there. I liked ikiwiki when I looked at it. It obviously depends on the site
>>>>>>> you're designing. Of the above, I think only ikiwiki is fully accessible
>>>>>>> with a text browser, but WordPress is tolerable. You can do most functions
>>>>>>> with wp-cli if you like the command line. Drupal has drush, but I couldn't
>>>>>>> get it to work. WordPress is much easier to upgrade and can do minor updates
>>>>>>> itself.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 4/28/2017 3:43 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hey guys,
>>>>>>>> I forwarded this over from the Phoenix Linux Users Group. Perhaps
>>>>>>>> one of us can help out?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -eric
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From: "der.hans" <PLUGd@LuftHans.com>
>>>>>>>>> Subject: accessible web-authoring system
>>>>>>>>> Date: April 28, 2017 12:32:48 PM MST
>>>>>>>>> To: quatsch <PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >
>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: Main PLUG discussion list
>>>>>>>>> <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> moin moin,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> anyone have experience with an accessible Free Software
>>>>>>>>> web-authoring
>>>>>>>>> system?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A friend works in accessibiilty ( all sorts of physical and mental
>>>>>>>>> handicaps ) and is asking for a recommendation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I presume Drupal, Joomla! and WordPress have plugins to help, but I
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> no experience. The closest thing I have to experience is demos from
>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>> blind guys using emacs for their own infrastructure. Amazing, but
>>>>>>>>> not the
>>>>>>>>> first thing to suggest.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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