You could also try siteimprove.
They also have a free extension for chrome. but charge for the service
otherwise. We use that here too.
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Kaoru Wilbur <
m.kaoru.wilbur@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi Eric ,
>
> Since you are on the West side... Anyway, there are a few things we can
> discuss here.
> first... if you are interested in getting involved with the w3c group for
> wcag ( Web Content Accessibility Guidelines) there are a couple of groups
> you can join. The groups on W3c itself are closed to the public. If you
> work for a certain organization that is listed as part of their community
> effort, then, you can possibly get in. An easier way to contribute is to
> join them on Github.
> There is a w3c wcag and ARIA. Changes, edits, etc are done there for
> standards.
>
> As far as Drupal is concerned, I wasn't really impressed by their modules
> relevant to accessibility. Of course, maybe I wasn't looking in the right
> place but. Yea.
>
> 3rd party plugin tool.
> One tool I use to check content for accessibility is Wave. This does a
> pretty good check of accessibility items.
>
> now, that being said, something that works during the html generation
> process or html "writing" process would be nice. If you know of anything,
> let me know.
>
> I am also involved in a project that is a debian based distro .for
> accessibility but that is a long time coming as the tools are seriously
> lacking.
> Those who have good tools charge a lot of money and I would personally
> like to see more open source projects with regard to accessibility - like
> the ones adafruit have listed that hans linked to earlier in this thread.
>
> We really need better tools.
> If you look at the tools listed in the W3c accessibility area, many are
> out of date, obsolete, abandoned or not working.
> For example, if you find a good tool for contrast - let me know.
> There are some that are very simple. However, I think there could be much
> better tools and utilities for accessibility.
>
> Blind is definitely one are but there are many other visually impaired to
> consider - that is where contrast comes in, right.
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:22 PM, Eric Oyen <eric.oyen@icloud.com> wrote:
>
>> I would like to go myself, but I am in need of a ride from the west side.
>> There are just times when I hate living so far away from the center of
>> things.
>>
>> -eric
>> From the central office of the Technomage Guild, Dept of monorail
>> development.
>>
>> On May 24, 2017, at 10:38 PM, Kaoru Wilbur wrote:
>>
>> So I actually work with Drupal and have some experience wrt accessibility
>> at the University. I'll be at coffee hour tomorrow if anyone wants to chat
>> more about Drupal and accessibility - some tools for WCAG compliance -
>> contrast tools (how they are not working great) and what we are doing at
>> the W3c wrt accessibility and how you can get involved.
>>
>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 2:30 PM, der.hans <PLUGd@lufthans.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Am 19. May, 2017 schwätzte der.hans so:
>>>
>>> moin moin,
>>>
>>> and another device popped up.
>>>
>>> https://plus.google.com/+adafruit/posts/6NH2VfeutQ1
>>>
>>> ciao,
>>>
>>> der.hans
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 29. Apr, 2017 schwätzte Eric Oyen so:
>>>>
>>>> moin moin,
>>>>
>>>> a post about a real-time braille converter from MIT reminds me that I
>>>> didn't report back on the demo for the accessible web-authoring tool.
>>>>
>>>> Here's the braille converter post.
>>>>
>>>> https://plus.google.com/+adafruit/posts/eLygbwBhra2
>>>>
>>>> The demo ended up using WordPress and was well received. The committee
>>>> was
>>>> impressed, but it will be some time before an official response is
>>>> given.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again for the feedback. It was quite helpful.
>>>>
>>>> ciao,
>>>>
>>>> der.hans
>>>>
>>>> well, here is a suggestion from one of the blind users of Linux who
>>>>> does a lot of web authoring.. Der Hands, you got this one?
>>>>>
>>>>> -eric
>>>>> from the central office of the Technomage Huild, Datasphere projects
>>>>> office
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: accessible web-authoring system
>>>>>> Date: April 29, 2017 4:20:51 AM MST
>>>>>> To: blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>>>> Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tony Baechler here. I'm sure others will chime in, but here are my
>>>>>> thoughts:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. The most accessible is plain, static HTML. Obviously not practical
>>>>>> for large sites, but for a few pages, it's good enough.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. WordPress is the most popular. It's generally very accessible.
>>>>>> There are things which could be made better, but it's good enough to design
>>>>>> decent sites. I ran a podcast with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. Drupal is also very good, but the latest major release (8.0.X) is
>>>>>> very difficult to use and far from accessible unless I missed something
>>>>>> obvious. I had it running on a server and it was so bad that I gave up. 7.X
>>>>>> should be better, but will reach end of life in a year or two and only gets
>>>>>> bug and security fixes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joomla is very inaccessible and should absolutely be avoided. I
>>>>>> couldn't do anything with it, but that was a long time ago. The key is if
>>>>>> the admin interface is accessible or not. I would go with WordPress due to
>>>>>> the huge number of themes, frequent updates and overall decent
>>>>>> accessibility.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another option is wiki software. There are a lot of wiki packages out
>>>>>> there. I liked ikiwiki when I looked at it. It obviously depends on the
>>>>>> site you're designing. Of the above, I think only ikiwiki is fully
>>>>>> accessible with a text browser, but WordPress is tolerable. You can do most
>>>>>> functions with wp-cli if you like the command line. Drupal has drush, but I
>>>>>> couldn't get it to work. WordPress is much easier to upgrade and can do
>>>>>> minor updates itself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/28/2017 3:43 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hey guys,
>>>>>>> I forwarded this over from the Phoenix Linux Users Group. Perhaps
>>>>>>> one of us can help out?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -eric
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: "der.hans" <PLUGd@LuftHans.com>
>>>>>>>> Subject: accessible web-authoring system
>>>>>>>> Date: April 28, 2017 12:32:48 PM MST
>>>>>>>> To: quatsch <PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>
>>>>>>>> Reply-To: Main PLUG discussion list <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.o
>>>>>>>> rg>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> moin moin,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> anyone have experience with an accessible Free Software
>>>>>>>> web-authoring
>>>>>>>> system?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A friend works in accessibiilty ( all sorts of physical and mental
>>>>>>>> handicaps ) and is asking for a recommendation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I presume Drupal, Joomla! and WordPress have plugins to help, but I
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> no experience. The closest thing I have to experience is demos from
>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>> blind guys using emacs for their own infrastructure. Amazing, but
>>>>>>>> not the
>>>>>>>> first thing to suggest.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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