You could also try siteimprove. They also have a free extension for chrome. but charge for the service otherwise. We use that here too. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Kaoru Wilbur wrote: > Hi Eric , > > Since you are on the West side... Anyway, there are a few things we can > discuss here. > first... if you are interested in getting involved with the w3c group for > wcag ( Web Content Accessibility Guidelines) there are a couple of groups > you can join. The groups on W3c itself are closed to the public. If you > work for a certain organization that is listed as part of their community > effort, then, you can possibly get in. An easier way to contribute is to > join them on Github. > There is a w3c wcag and ARIA. Changes, edits, etc are done there for > standards. > > As far as Drupal is concerned, I wasn't really impressed by their modules > relevant to accessibility. Of course, maybe I wasn't looking in the right > place but. Yea. > > 3rd party plugin tool. > One tool I use to check content for accessibility is Wave. This does a > pretty good check of accessibility items. > > now, that being said, something that works during the html generation > process or html "writing" process would be nice. If you know of anything, > let me know. > > I am also involved in a project that is a debian based distro .for > accessibility but that is a long time coming as the tools are seriously > lacking. > Those who have good tools charge a lot of money and I would personally > like to see more open source projects with regard to accessibility - like > the ones adafruit have listed that hans linked to earlier in this thread. > > We really need better tools. > If you look at the tools listed in the W3c accessibility area, many are > out of date, obsolete, abandoned or not working. > For example, if you find a good tool for contrast - let me know. > There are some that are very simple. However, I think there could be much > better tools and utilities for accessibility. > > Blind is definitely one are but there are many other visually impaired to > consider - that is where contrast comes in, right. > > > > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:22 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > >> I would like to go myself, but I am in need of a ride from the west side. >> There are just times when I hate living so far away from the center of >> things. >> >> -eric >> From the central office of the Technomage Guild, Dept of monorail >> development. >> >> On May 24, 2017, at 10:38 PM, Kaoru Wilbur wrote: >> >> So I actually work with Drupal and have some experience wrt accessibility >> at the University. I'll be at coffee hour tomorrow if anyone wants to chat >> more about Drupal and accessibility - some tools for WCAG compliance - >> contrast tools (how they are not working great) and what we are doing at >> the W3c wrt accessibility and how you can get involved. >> >> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 2:30 PM, der.hans wrote: >> >>> Am 19. May, 2017 schwätzte der.hans so: >>> >>> moin moin, >>> >>> and another device popped up. >>> >>> https://plus.google.com/+adafruit/posts/6NH2VfeutQ1 >>> >>> ciao, >>> >>> der.hans >>> >>> >>> Am 29. Apr, 2017 schwätzte Eric Oyen so: >>>> >>>> moin moin, >>>> >>>> a post about a real-time braille converter from MIT reminds me that I >>>> didn't report back on the demo for the accessible web-authoring tool. >>>> >>>> Here's the braille converter post. >>>> >>>> https://plus.google.com/+adafruit/posts/eLygbwBhra2 >>>> >>>> The demo ended up using WordPress and was well received. The committee >>>> was >>>> impressed, but it will be some time before an official response is >>>> given. >>>> >>>> Thanks again for the feedback. It was quite helpful. >>>> >>>> ciao, >>>> >>>> der.hans >>>> >>>> well, here is a suggestion from one of the blind users of Linux who >>>>> does a lot of web authoring.. Der Hands, you got this one? >>>>> >>>>> -eric >>>>> from the central office of the Technomage Huild, Datasphere projects >>>>> office >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>> >>>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion >>>>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: accessible web-authoring system >>>>>> Date: April 29, 2017 4:20:51 AM MST >>>>>> To: blinux-list@redhat.com >>>>>> Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com >>>>>> >>>>>> Tony Baechler here. I'm sure others will chime in, but here are my >>>>>> thoughts: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. The most accessible is plain, static HTML. Obviously not practical >>>>>> for large sites, but for a few pages, it's good enough. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2. WordPress is the most popular. It's generally very accessible. >>>>>> There are things which could be made better, but it's good enough to design >>>>>> decent sites. I ran a podcast with it. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3. Drupal is also very good, but the latest major release (8.0.X) is >>>>>> very difficult to use and far from accessible unless I missed something >>>>>> obvious. I had it running on a server and it was so bad that I gave up. 7.X >>>>>> should be better, but will reach end of life in a year or two and only gets >>>>>> bug and security fixes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Joomla is very inaccessible and should absolutely be avoided. I >>>>>> couldn't do anything with it, but that was a long time ago. The key is if >>>>>> the admin interface is accessible or not. I would go with WordPress due to >>>>>> the huge number of themes, frequent updates and overall decent >>>>>> accessibility. >>>>>> >>>>>> Another option is wiki software. There are a lot of wiki packages out >>>>>> there. I liked ikiwiki when I looked at it. It obviously depends on the >>>>>> site you're designing. Of the above, I think only ikiwiki is fully >>>>>> accessible with a text browser, but WordPress is tolerable. You can do most >>>>>> functions with wp-cli if you like the command line. Drupal has drush, but I >>>>>> couldn't get it to work. WordPress is much easier to upgrade and can do >>>>>> minor updates itself. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 4/28/2017 3:43 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> hey guys, >>>>>>> I forwarded this over from the Phoenix Linux Users Group. Perhaps >>>>>>> one of us can help out? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -eric >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "der.hans" >>>>>>>> Subject: accessible web-authoring system >>>>>>>> Date: April 28, 2017 12:32:48 PM MST >>>>>>>> To: quatsch >>>>>>>> Reply-To: Main PLUG discussion list >>>>>>> rg> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> moin moin, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> anyone have experience with an accessible Free Software >>>>>>>> web-authoring >>>>>>>> system? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A friend works in accessibiilty ( all sorts of physical and mental >>>>>>>> handicaps ) and is asking for a recommendation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I presume Drupal, Joomla! and WordPress have plugins to help, but I >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> no experience. The closest thing I have to experience is demos from >>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>> blind guys using emacs for their own infrastructure. Amazing, but >>>>>>>> not the >>>>>>>> first thing to suggest. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list >>>>>> Blinux-list@red >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> -- >>> # http://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.PhxLinux.org/ >>> # Two roads diverged in a wood, and I -- >>> # I took the one less traveled by, >>> # And that has made all the difference. -- Robert Frost >>> # I, OTOH, prefer to just go stomping through the desert... - der.hans >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > >