I haven't built anything on these directly, but I've encountered them on servers a little bit, and there are some specifics related to the kernel and UEFI that may help clarify the interactions for your configuration.
The way the linux F/S stack (at least currently) interacts with nvme devices is pretty good, but you do have to be a bit careful how you set it up in some cases.
To understand this, there's a diagram that's slightly out of date, but close enough at
https://www.thomas-krenn.com/de/wikiDE/images/5/50/Linux-storage-stack-diagram_v4.0.svg
Let's look at your stack in this diagram, and see where things fit.
1) RAID1
If you're using mdraid and dm-raid for the RAID layer (and not a SCSI raid driver), then you're in good shape.
These operate in the "stackable" layer above BIO's (the Block I/O struct in the kernel), which is good, as the primary NVMe enhancements (blkmq) operate in the block layer below this.
2) LUKS
If you're using dm-crypt as the backend (which should be the case), then again you're in good shape.
dm-crypt is also in the "stackable" layer, so it also benefits from blkmq enhancements.
3) LVM
This always operates in the "stackable" layer, so no worries here.
4) boot drive
This is where things start to get troublesome. Some distributions don't currently support the NVMe/UEFI combination well (UEFI support itself is still a bit weak in many ways).
Most installation guides and benchmark tests use legacy mode for compatibility, but you do give up some performance when doing so, and not all motherboards handle this configuration well.
It's possible, in most cases, to install a NVMe drive as an UEFI boot drive (don't forget the EFI partition), but it's probably going to require some manual tweaking, and a bit of googling for *correct* instructions relevant to your chosen distribution.
Possible Gotchas:
1) try to avoid mapping the device through the SCSI layer. NVMe is all about performance, and NVMe devices work best when they're mapped through the nvme driver, rather than the SCSI stack and compatibility driver.
This shouldn't happen in most recent distributions, but legacy mode in UEFI or other issues might confuse the kernel probes.
If you do map through the SCSI stack, you usually end up with performance much closer to SATA3 than NVMe. You may also encounter some weird corner cases that affect stability.
2) If you do get the UEFI boot working, make sure there's a recovery boot device handy, for when UEFI gets confused.
This seems to happen far more frequently than it should, particularly with legacy compatibility mode enabled.
It seems that some UEFI M/B implementations still have a long way to go in reliability for less common setups.
3) Avoid using any kind of EFI raid support if possible. None of these, that I've seen, appears to be well implemented, even on server-focused boards.
Having UEFI get totally tangled when it's splitting blocks between devices and it's own code is on those devices can brick a system rather thoroughly.
4) Keep in mind that the devices will be named /dev/nvme#n# and partitions /dev/nvme#n#p#.
Some utilities still try to use /dev/nvme or something similar, which is related to SCSI assumptions and won't work correctly.
Hopefully that's at least somewhat helpful. I hope you'll let us all know how it goes if you do end up going this route.
==Joseph++
On 10/27/2016 09:31 AM, Michael Butash wrote:
> Curious if anyone has taken the plunge to play with nvme-based ssd's under linux here? Particularly around raid.
>
> Not finding a lot pertaining to them that is positive toward linux on the tubes, and I'm looking to reproduce my usual raid1+luks+lvm atop them, so feedback on doing so would be appreciated if anyone has comment.
>
> I'm building a new desktop, and considering using them in place if they can boot, as the system is built more as a server as a vm farm for my lab so the iops would be appreciated when it's also my desktop. I see reference to EFI-based raid, which makes me cringe, but seem mdraid fakeraid can handle them to some extents.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -mb
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