they also pointed me here
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http://www.publicsurplus.com/sms/all,az/browse/cataucs?catid=1>.
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:08 PM, Michael Havens <
bmike1@gmail.com> wrote:
> PLUG members are so generous.
> I've found many LUG members are generous. When I first moved to
> Gainesville I had to replace my desktop (which had been fried by lightening
> just 3 days before). I post a message to the local lug group asking for a
> donation and lots of people offered. Then someone axed me from the lug
> list!
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Eric Oyen <eric.oyen@icloud.com> wrote:
>
>> hehe. I have a number of older model desktops (including an old Intel
>> pentium 3 Ghz cpu) that can run the latest versions of Linux easily. That
>> is generally what happens to a lot of my older equipment. I dump windows
>> (or OS X) for the latest working Linux.
>>
>> Hell, I still have that old toshiba satellite laptop with the semi
>> working screen here. it gets used to control my ham station by remote. Not
>> bad , all things considered. BTW< that laptop was donated by a fellow plug
>> member over 8 years ago. It still works and still does its job. :)
>>
>> -eric
>>
>> On Oct 25, 2015, at 5:35 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>>
>> > why in the world would anyone buy new equipment if they use Linux? (not
>> counting laptops---- used laptops suck! Though I did put Linux on an xp
>> laptop for a lady I knew when i lived in Cottonwood)
>> >
>> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:58 PM, Keith Smith <techlists@phpcoderusa.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Most of what you talk about is outside the scope of a data center.
>> >
>> > On 2015-10-25 15:42, Eric Oyen wrote:
>> > time may be money, but sometimes its worth it to have alternatives.
>> >
>> > I like alternatives. I run Mint on my desktop. I've been fortunate
>> enough that it just worked so it was cost effective. I like buying
>> discounted hardware and putting Linux on it. I would have difficulty
>> leaving home with a Mac that might cost $2k or more.... yikes.
>> >
>> > Still time is money. All things being equal, a top end programmer
>> might make $40 - $60 plus per hour W2 plus benefits. Is it cost effective
>> to have that person or someone else compile a driver for their hardware?
>> Probably not unless they have a very specific need. They need something
>> that gets them to work as fast as possible. I think that was the one of
>> the points of the article.
>> >
>> > I used Windows for years, even though I have never been a fan of M$.
>> Why because it did the job. Until several years ago I did not like Linux
>> on my desktop, even though I tried to go M$ free on two prior occasions
>> dating back to 2000.
>> >
>> > I think what you are describing is a business niche or someone with
>> Linux admin skills messing with their own hardware.
>> >
>> >
>> > Sure, on a mac everything "just works" (well, mostly). The issue here
>> > is that all IT personnel need to know how to deal with any OS on their
>> > network, including being able to edit and compile drivers for
>> > specialized hardware. I have an old mac here (its a series 2007
>> > vintage white book) and I managed to get linux working on it. The key
>> > is finding the correct drivers. If one doesn't exist, but is close to
>> > another in the same chipset, it isn't that hard to modify it to work
>> > (or, it may just work anyway). The kicker is getting the source info
>> > from the manufacturer (in the case of apple, its Intel). SOmetimes
>> > they are helpful and sometimes they aren't .
>> >
>> > -eric
>> >
>> > On Oct 25, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Keith Smith wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Linux is only free if your time is worthless." - A guy that owns a
>> data center told me he buys Mac because he does not have the time to fix
>> driver issues.... etc. Time is money!!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > </snip>
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