they also pointed me here . On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 9:08 PM, Michael Havens wrote: > PLUG members are so generous. > I've found many LUG members are generous. When I first moved to > Gainesville I had to replace my desktop (which had been fried by lightening > just 3 days before). I post a message to the local lug group asking for a > donation and lots of people offered. Then someone axed me from the lug > list! > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Eric Oyen wrote: > >> hehe. I have a number of older model desktops (including an old Intel >> pentium 3 Ghz cpu) that can run the latest versions of Linux easily. That >> is generally what happens to a lot of my older equipment. I dump windows >> (or OS X) for the latest working Linux. >> >> Hell, I still have that old toshiba satellite laptop with the semi >> working screen here. it gets used to control my ham station by remote. Not >> bad , all things considered. BTW< that laptop was donated by a fellow plug >> member over 8 years ago. It still works and still does its job. :) >> >> -eric >> >> On Oct 25, 2015, at 5:35 PM, Michael Havens wrote: >> >> > why in the world would anyone buy new equipment if they use Linux? (not >> counting laptops---- used laptops suck! Though I did put Linux on an xp >> laptop for a lady I knew when i lived in Cottonwood) >> > >> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:58 PM, Keith Smith >> wrote: >> > Most of what you talk about is outside the scope of a data center. >> > >> > On 2015-10-25 15:42, Eric Oyen wrote: >> > time may be money, but sometimes its worth it to have alternatives. >> > >> > I like alternatives. I run Mint on my desktop. I've been fortunate >> enough that it just worked so it was cost effective. I like buying >> discounted hardware and putting Linux on it. I would have difficulty >> leaving home with a Mac that might cost $2k or more.... yikes. >> > >> > Still time is money. All things being equal, a top end programmer >> might make $40 - $60 plus per hour W2 plus benefits. Is it cost effective >> to have that person or someone else compile a driver for their hardware? >> Probably not unless they have a very specific need. They need something >> that gets them to work as fast as possible. I think that was the one of >> the points of the article. >> > >> > I used Windows for years, even though I have never been a fan of M$. >> Why because it did the job. Until several years ago I did not like Linux >> on my desktop, even though I tried to go M$ free on two prior occasions >> dating back to 2000. >> > >> > I think what you are describing is a business niche or someone with >> Linux admin skills messing with their own hardware. >> > >> > >> > Sure, on a mac everything "just works" (well, mostly). The issue here >> > is that all IT personnel need to know how to deal with any OS on their >> > network, including being able to edit and compile drivers for >> > specialized hardware. I have an old mac here (its a series 2007 >> > vintage white book) and I managed to get linux working on it. The key >> > is finding the correct drivers. If one doesn't exist, but is close to >> > another in the same chipset, it isn't that hard to modify it to work >> > (or, it may just work anyway). The kicker is getting the source info >> > from the manufacturer (in the case of apple, its Intel). SOmetimes >> > they are helpful and sometimes they aren't . >> > >> > -eric >> > >> > On Oct 25, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Keith Smith wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > "Linux is only free if your time is worthless." - A guy that owns a >> data center told me he buys Mac because he does not have the time to fix >> driver issues.... etc. Time is money!! >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------- >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > :-)~MIKE~(-: >> > --------------------------------------------------- >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > -- :-)~MIKE~(-: