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Author: Phil Waclawski
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To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: RHEL 8
good to know, thank you
Phil W

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Brian Cluff <> wrote:

> Those 2 things are both still there.
>
> For the menu selection, it has been moved slightly to a better location.
> You now right click on the K icon and select "Alternatives" and then you
> are given a list of ALL the menu alternatives that exist. The
> "Alternatives" selection seems to be a configuration design that they have
> carried across everything that can or does have multiple options. It should
> make less obvious options noticeable to more people.
>
> For the desktop, they have combined all the different desktop types into a
> single versatile desktop. So to get a classic desktop with icons on it, go
> to the "Wallpaper" tab under the desktop settings and change it from
> "Desktop" to "Folderview". I have noticed that the folder view specific
> setting don't appear in the desktop settings area until you exit out of the
> desktop settings and then go back in.
>
> Brian Cluff
>
> On 10/14/2015 02:09 PM, Phil Waclawski wrote:
>
>> Well, for one, I dislike the tabbed menu KDE has by default, so I
>> usually do a right click and "Classic Menu Style". Student said that was
>> gone (I haven't tried out 15 yet). Also that you can't easily set the
>> desktop to "folder view" either. If those are true, that's not a good
>> sign for the rest of it. I need to get the live DVD and test it myself.
>>
>> Phil W
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Brian Cluff <
>> <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     On 10/13/2015 06:14 PM, Phil Waclawski wrote:

>>
>>         Yes, and the UNITY thing on Ubuntu also beat windows 8 to the
>> punch.
>>         That was when I switched to Kubuntu.  I've had a student testing
>>         kubuntu
>>         15 and it looks like the customizations I normally do to KDE
>>         have been
>>         disabled (or hidden) in KDE 5....may start looking at Mint or
>>         something
>>         else.

>>
>>
>>     Just curious, what customizations are you finding that are missing?
>>     In my option Kubuntu 15.04 was really a rough release and I haven't
>>     recommend it to much of anyone. Plasma 5 appears to have been
>>     adopted about 2 months too soon to make it the default desktop in
>>     Kubuntu. After about 2 months you could load the Kubuntu backports
>>     PPA and that would make things fairly nice.

>>
>>     There are a small handful of plasmoids that didn't make the port
>>     over to the plasma 5 environment, one of my favorites being the the
>>     "quicklaunch" plasmoid. At first I was pissed, but on doing some
>>     research I found out that the quicklaunch plasmoid has been
>>     abandoned by the author for years so it was bound to get dropped
>>     anyway. The good thing is that the effective functionality of the
>>     quicklaunch plasmoid has been pulled into the folderview plasmoid
>>     which changes it's behavior if it's put into a panel.

>>
>>     Anyway, cut to the as unreleased Kubunutu 15.10... It's a whole
>>     different beast compared to the 15.04 rlease, and in my opinion is
>>     what should have been the initial plasma 5 desktop release. All the
>>     crashes are now gone. Most of the missing features are back and the
>>     still missing ones are most likely your least used features and
>>     should be back in shortly. The desktop is silky smooth and
>>     noticeably faster than the 14.x versions of KDE. Of course it could
>>     also be argued that Kubuntu wouldn't have been in such a good state
>>     if it hadn't released plasma 5 to the wild when it did... oh well,
>>     it is what it is.

>>
>>     If you are currently running 14.04LTS then I believe that by the
>>     time you upgrade to the next LTS in 6 months, the desktop should be
>>     just a faster, smoother version of what you already know... only
>> better.
>>     If you are looking to upgrade sooner, then I think you'll still find
>>     the desktop in excellent shape... It might be missing a few minor
>>     features right now, but there is often a workaround till the feature
>>     gets added back in in the near future.

>>
>>     Probably the biggest change that might bite you is that KDE is now
>>     storing it's configurations in more standard locations like .config,
>>     .local, etc and a small number of other paths have changed as well,
>>     like the path to the service menus. A quick mv and a softlink
>>     quickly take care of the legacy location on an updated box.

>>
>>     Brian Cluff

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