good to know, thank you
Phil W

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Brian Cluff <brian@snaptek.com> wrote:
Those 2 things are both still there.

For the menu selection, it has been moved slightly to a better location.  You now right click on the K icon and select "Alternatives" and then you are given a list of ALL the menu alternatives that exist.  The "Alternatives" selection seems to be a configuration design that they have carried across everything that can or does have multiple options. It should make less obvious options noticeable to more people.

For the desktop, they have combined all the different desktop types into a single versatile desktop.  So to get a classic desktop with icons on it, go to the "Wallpaper" tab under the desktop settings and change it from "Desktop" to "Folderview".  I have noticed that the folder view specific setting don't appear in the desktop settings area until you exit out of the desktop settings and then go back in.

Brian Cluff

On 10/14/2015 02:09 PM, Phil Waclawski wrote:
Well, for one, I dislike the tabbed menu KDE has by default, so I
usually do a right click and "Classic Menu Style". Student said that was
gone (I haven't tried out 15  yet). Also that you can't easily set the
desktop to "folder view" either.  If those are true, that's not a good
sign for the rest of it. I need to get the live DVD and test it myself.

Phil W

On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Brian Cluff <brian@snaptek.com
<mailto:brian@snaptek.com>> wrote:

    On 10/13/2015 06:14 PM, Phil Waclawski wrote:

        Yes, and the UNITY thing on Ubuntu also beat windows 8 to the punch.
        That was when I switched to Kubuntu.  I've had a student testing
        kubuntu
        15 and it looks like the customizations I normally do to KDE
        have been
        disabled (or hidden) in KDE 5....may start looking at Mint or
        something
        else.


    Just curious, what customizations are you finding that are missing?
    In my option Kubuntu 15.04 was really a rough release and I haven't
    recommend it to much of anyone. Plasma 5 appears to have been
    adopted about 2 months too soon to make it the default desktop in
    Kubuntu. After about 2 months you could load the Kubuntu backports
    PPA and that would make things fairly nice.

    There are a small handful of plasmoids that didn't make the port
    over to the plasma 5 environment, one of my favorites being the the
    "quicklaunch" plasmoid. At first I was pissed, but on doing some
    research I found out that the quicklaunch plasmoid has been
    abandoned by the author for years so it was bound to get dropped
    anyway. The good thing is that the effective functionality of the
    quicklaunch plasmoid has been pulled into the folderview plasmoid
    which changes it's behavior if it's put into a panel.

    Anyway, cut to the as unreleased Kubunutu 15.10... It's a whole
    different beast compared to the 15.04 rlease, and in my opinion is
    what should have been the initial plasma 5 desktop release. All the
    crashes are now gone. Most of the missing features are back and the
    still missing ones are most likely your least used features and
    should be back in shortly. The desktop is silky smooth and
    noticeably faster than the 14.x versions of KDE. Of course it could
    also be argued that Kubuntu wouldn't have been in such a good state
    if it hadn't released plasma 5 to the wild when it did... oh well,
    it is what it is.

    If you are currently running 14.04LTS then I believe that by the
    time you upgrade to the next LTS in 6 months, the desktop should be
    just a faster, smoother version of what you already know... only better.
    If you are looking to upgrade sooner, then I think you'll still find
    the desktop in excellent shape... It might be missing a few minor
    features right now, but there is often a workaround till the feature
    gets added back in in the near future.

    Probably the biggest change that might bite you is that KDE is now
    storing it's configurations in more standard locations like .config,
    .local, etc and a small number of other paths have changed as well,
    like the path to the service menus. A quick mv and a softlink
    quickly take care of the legacy location on an updated box.

    Brian Cluff

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