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Author: Stephen Partington
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Subject: Re: VirtualBox
I have seen more gimping of hardware in hp desktops/laptops that were
deemed budget oriented than any other vendor. To the point of killing
features that the cpu/chips ET would natively support. It looks like you
have discovered this in spades.

On Friday, November 14, 2014, Michael Butash <> wrote:

> Don't buy HP - been there, done that. Told "linux isn't relevant enough
> to fix a bios bug". Stopped buying them.
>
> Sadly no, vendors (like hp) suck for linux at times and in general, might
> try some of the various grub flags for disabling acpi, if a desktop and not
> sleeping, you're not losing much except maybe some power management. Dell
> is generally more friendly, but as I mentioned not always either. Anything
> windoze 8.x-ish is just generally more unfriendly/quirky toward linux I
> find.
>
> Thank them when you pay your next microsoft tax on a prebuilt system.
>
> -mb
>
>
>
> On 11/13/2014 11:41 PM, Stephen M wrote:
>
> I've tried looking on HP's website and it says I have the latest BIOs. So
> unless I look for the specific board I think it's updated right now.
> Unless you have suggestions.
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Michael Butash <
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','');>> wrote:
>
>> I've never had it flip on and off, few times with a new laptop I'll try
>> to start vbox and realize the vt setting is off after a minute of
>> scratching my head, but not revert randomly.
>>
>> See if there is a bios update too. Seems no one bothers to make anything
>> right the first time since microsoft perfected the "ship crap and patch
>> later" game.
>>
>> You want really odd bios, my newest dell laptop after about a month of
>> use with only suspends will start turning itself back on back on. Even
>> with a poweroff now, I have to literally 5 second poweroff to make it stay
>> down or it'll just start booting again. Ghost in the shell, or at least
>> acpi functions.
>>
>> -mb
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/13/2014 06:25 PM, Stephen M wrote:
>>
>> Now I don't think this is very relevant but I also have virtualbox setup
>> on my laptop. I've not had an issue yet like on my desktop. The difference
>> is that this laptop is a little newer and also I'm not dual booting my
>> laptop. Other than that they are both setup the same way.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:23 PM, Stephen M <
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','');>> wrote:
>>
>>> My computer is around 5 years old and I don't think there is an app that
>>> controls the BIOS that I'm aware of. The CMOS battery could be an issue
>>> because when I looked at the date in the BIOS it wasn't set correctly. But
>>> the date was so I could try that.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Michael Butash <
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds like your bios is resetting - maybe the cmos battery? The VT
>>>> bit is a bios setting, really shouldn't change unless you have a os-level
>>>> app that controls the bios too. Seems most newer non-basic boards have
>>>> this now.
>>>>
>>>> -mb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/13/2014 02:52 PM, Stephen M wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It happened the same in 12.04 with 14.04. I have the latest version
>>>> of virtualbox which is 4.3.18 and the expansion pack.
>>>>
>>>> If anyone can think of ideas why this might be happening that would be
>>>> helpful. But at this time I might have to look for a new computer.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Stephen M <
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','');>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> I'm not sure if someone has already asked this question. I have a 64
>>>>> bit host that I have VT enabled in the BIOS. I can sometime create/run 64
>>>>> bit guest machines and other times not. It is usually when I reboot my
>>>>> computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tried to turn off VT or just having it on. It will eventually
>>>>> come back though. This problem has been going on for a while now. I was
>>>>> on Ubuntu 12.04 but now 14.04 beyond that nothing else changed.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Stephen Melheim
>>>>> 602-400-7707
>>>>>
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','');>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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