http://zgp.org/pipermail/linux-elitists/2004-February/009575.html
Check out this thread on Debian from 10yrs ago.
On Friday, July 25, 2014, Kaoru Wilbur <
m.kaoru.wilbur@gmail.com> wrote:
> So, I am what some people have been calling "old School". I started out
> when Potato was released. That was about 15 years ago. I used it for
> porting, testing and in fact, used to do testing or unstable just to help
> me understand more and test stuff out.
>
> Wow, a week of fallout is intense.
>
> Personally, I like using the CLI. It saves time, resources, and such.
> Ubuntu has some nice features but I definitely am not drinking the
> Canonical Kool Aid.
> What I really liked to do back in the day is port stuff to Debian because
> a lot of companies were doing it for RH and didn't care about Debian.
> Another thing I liked to do is test out hardware - this card, this module.
>
> The truth is Debian is free software and that philosophy was one I agree
> with. I had a fully free machine when I attended college. I finished my
> degree with no proprietary software whatsoever for my undergrad. Also,
> everyone I knew was using Debian, Richard Stallman, Emmett Plant, Don
> Marti. Of course, these are the Masters and I, alas, just a Journeyer (well
> on Advogato, that is).
>
> Debian is kick ass for learning how things work, getting things to work,
> but, does take time and devotion, right.
> At least I can stand by a community effort and not some proprietary
> commercial entity.
> I'm not saying Canonical hasn't done some good things. Sure. I just don't
> like Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Hannah Montana Buntu...
>
> Also, I prefer Raspbian on my Banana Pi. No Ubuntu there.
> So, I know everyone has their own likes.
> For example, I really did like Knoppix. It's a solid tool. Ubuntu would
> never let me know "why" something is throwing an error. It just throws it.
>
> What I think - Debian has been and always will be my friend ;)
>
> Of course, you could ask 100 people and 100 different opinions may be had.
> I'm not saying mine is right at all. Debian is right for me. I try other
> distros. In fact, I'm going to try Arch on my banana out of curiosity.
>
> I have tried Mint. MInt is nice. It all depends on what you want to do
> also.
> I suppose as far as community is concerned, if you drink the Canonical
> Kool Aid, you can hang with that crowd.
> If you like Dead Rat, you can hang your hat,
> If you like Debian... well, let's just say, it's a different portion of
> the community. :)
>
> Come into the light, Michael!!! :)
>
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Michael Butash <michael@butash.net
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','michael@butash.net');>> wrote:
>
>> Ahh, debian lurkers!
>>
>> Just out of curiosity, not to hijack the thread, but don't find a lot of
>> pure debian users... what train of debian are you and/or most people using
>> for desktop, if not just servers? Curious what others are using if not the
>> usual ubuntu flavors of deb, or raw debian even.
>>
>> Ubuntu's become mostly a basketcase where I spend as much time removing,
>> disabling, fixing, or hunting bugs in literally everything I do that I felt
>> it's time to move on. I can't remember the last time I upgraded clean
>> without spending a week with fallout. Wait, yes I can - about the time
>> Unity replaced things, and they did away with debian installer.
>> Whodathunkit.
>>
>> Figure go to the source, but debian has been an adventure in itself. I
>> used cinnamon debian mint on my laptop with a haswell chip, and the
>> graphics are buggy with anything that attempts to use GL. Go figure, Intel
>> is always a winner here.
>>
>> I used Mate-based debian mint on my desktop, which is apparently an
>> adventure with new hardware on a z97 chip, 2nd gen haswell, and my trusty
>> ATI card which sadly I still cannot replace with an nvidia to drive my 6
>> displays. Couldn't upgrade to 3.15 with z97 patches (damn ati), settled on
>> a 3.11, and tossed in a usb sound card for now until ati wakes up and
>> updates the driver for 3.15 with alsa fixes.
>>
>> I thought to go pure debian, but was hoping mint debian would prove a bit
>> better. Admittedly, once working it's been fairly good, but lots of weird
>> bugs/caveats too - just wondering what the consensus is around it.
>>
>> -mb
>>
>>
>> On 07/25/2014 03:25 PM, Kaoru Wilbur wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, I think I have a SuSe disk from like 2001. I did make some money
>>> on that Novell stock when they bought SuSe. The road trip thing sounds
>>> interesting to me. I want to see what they have to say... I'm not expecting
>>> anything amazing, and I am Debian dedicated but am open to seeing what else
>>> is going on.
>>>
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