Re: Oh boy... We *ARE* criminals!!!

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Subject: Re: Oh boy... We *ARE* criminals!!!

Isn’t Soden a whistle blower? Don't we need people like him so we know
what is really going on.

As it stands if the Gov does not want you or even most politicians to
know what is going on all they have to do is classify their documents.

We need far more transparency and disclosure. Without Soden would we
not still be in the dark?


On 2014-07-11 09:48, Victor Odhner wrote:
> Is that news? FOSS is where individuals can find tools to preserve
> privacy and free speech, regardless of who wants to deny them these
> rights. Some might suspect NSA has managed to arm-twist major software
> publishers into installing backdoor features into popular software,
> and has planted developers in the FOSS community trying to do the
> same. And who would you think runs the most TOR servers ... If you
> can't beat them, join them, right? In other news, Homeland Security
> considers former US military vets and Christian types as major sources
> of threats to The System[TM]. We can trust our government to protect
> us from ... ourselves. As Pogo said, "We have met the enemy and he is
> us." Good times. :) I never tried TOR, it's been years since I looked
> at Linux Journal, and I am no fan of Rat Fink Snowden or WikiLeaks,
> but I'll be paying a visit to the targeted sites this week just "for
> the record."
>
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> FROM: Mike Ballon <>
> SENT: July 11, 2014 6:40:56 AM MST
> TO: Main PLUG discussion list <>
> SUBJECT: Re: Oh boy... We *ARE* criminals!!!
>
> Unreal
>
> "According to the DasErste report, the NSA considers Linux Journal to
> be an "extremist forum."
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 7:42 PM, <> wrote:
>
>> Linux Lands on NSA Watch List
>> http://www.eweek.com/security/linux-lands-on-nsa-watch-list.html
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