Well said Sam!
On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Sam Kreimeyer <
skreimey@gmail.com> wrote:
> What about using public APs from a distance (cantennas are easy enough to
> put together), a live OS and a spoofed MAC address? As long as you leave
> your smartphone/tracking device at home and compartmentalize your activity
> (ie, don't visit sites or use logins you use in your day to day online
> interactions), I would think that it would be extremely difficult to link
> traffic with a person.
>
> More involved exploitation and monitoring (such as malicious files) would
> probably mean that there is an actual agent or agents interested in your
> activity. Unless you're into some serious naughtiness or a Muslim (and even
> those people aren't monitored very effectively [the Tsarnaev bros. come to
> mind]), I wouldn't anticipate the NSA purposing those limited resources to
> users. I think with open source software and a little bit of cryptography,
> you can subvert most of the dragnet data mining tactics in place.
>
> And as a government employee myself, I can say that we are far from the
> hardest working demographic. I wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority
> of individuals flagged by whatever magic 8-ball algos are in place in NSA
> datacenters go without investigation.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Matt Graham <danceswithcrows@usa.net>wrote:
>
>> From: Lisa Kachold
>> > It's trivial to send you a PDF or Javascript Browser Exploitation BEef
>> > hook and walk through your systems
>>
>> How do NoScript and using evince/kpdf instead of Acrobrat Reader affect
>> those
>> trivial exploits?
>>
>> > agents that can be delivered via email (Kaseya or LivePerson) and J2EE
>> > exploits that can be launched easily = opening you wide.
>>
>> Of course, if you're using a mail client that executes things found in
>> attachments, you'll get pwn3d quickly. Are there any mail clients that do
>> those things in this day and age? I thought they'd even partially fixed
>> Outhouse in that respect. J2EE? Who has all the components of J2EE
>> installed
>> (besides Java developers)? In the last 5 years, I've seen exactly 2 Java
>> applets in the wild. Client-side Java is *uncommon* in the modern WWW
>> AFAICT;
>> the things people used to use Java for have been taken over by Flash/JS.
>>
>> > Surveillance technology continues from all your expenditures, all your
>> > travel (license plate readers), and your phone behaviors, and can
>> include
>> > remote viewing (without camera technology you would recognize).
>>
>> I can see how it'd be easy to track credit card transactions (bank
>> records)
>> and car movements (via traffic cameras). Could you explain "remote
>> viewing
>> without camera technology" more clearly?
>>
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