Keith,
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 7:28 PM, keith smith <
klsmith2020@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Are you saying a move to Linux is of no use? No firewalls to keep them out?
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Well, the NSA has access to:
0) Data tracking that allows them to:
fingerprint your layer 7 applications
fingerprint your layer 1-3 applications
Large databases provide all manner of cross-checks on your "habits":
Encryption(s) are mostly broken, so they can access any data they collect.
Akamai caching provides a great deal of information that can also be
cross-checked to provide more complete data from bank data and other high
level authentication to ensure that you are who they think you are.
NSA has various taps in place around the world that show source and
destination and/or cookies.
1) Encroachment to most individuals or small business via OSI layer:
Layer 1 up:
It's trivial to own/tap (without a Warrant) your DSL (cable) or ADSL
(Century 21) -- then on to your router (DD-WRT, Netgear, Cisco, Asus) -
quickly.
Layer 7 down:
It's trivial to send you a PDF or Javascript Browser Exploitation BEef hook
and walk through your systems (similar to Logmein or Hamachi). There are
agents that can be delivered via email (Kaseya or LivePerson) and J2EE
exploits that can be launched easily = opening you wide.
Believe me, in this day and age, there is NO AWAY and no keeping THEM OUT.
2) Survellience technology continues from all your expenditures, all your
travel (license plate readers), and your phone behaviors, and can include
remote viewing (without camera technology you would recognize).
But sure. Go ahead and keep them out, I dare you!
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> Keith Smith
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> --- On *Mon, 6/24/13, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold@obnosis.com>* wrote:
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> From: Lisa Kachold <lisakachold@obnosis.com>
> Subject: Re: Times to move to Linux
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org>
> Date: Monday, June 24, 2013, 6:45 PM
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> Hi Guys,
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> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 5:21 PM, kitepilot@kitepilot.com<http://mc/compose?to=kitepilot@kitepilot.com>
> <kitepilot@kitepilot.com <http://mc/compose?to=kitepilot@kitepilot.com>>wrote:
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> I don't question the need to move to Linux and I don't doubt that the guv
> spies on us, but this article sounds pretty lame...
> My opinion.
> We all know about opinions...
> ET
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> keith smith writes:
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> I think it is time to move everything to Linux. According to this article
> the NSA has had a backdoor to Windows since 95.
> http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/**nsa-has-total-access-via-**microsoft-windows/<http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/nsa-has-total-access-via-microsoft-windows/>
> I seem to recall Ubuntu had/has some sort of backdoor also.
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> The NSA has backdoors into everything with a variety of technologies.
> Believe it, nothing is sacred, if they want to know all about you, there
> are a great many "doors".
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