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Author: Brian Cluff
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Subject: Re: Looking for Linux Equivalent Program
It just occurred to me that if you could find a tool that made heat maps
in general that it would be relatively trivial to create a script that
just continuously polled your wifi strength and GPS location and gave
you a textfile that you could feed into your heat map generating software.

I did a little searching with splitting the tasks in mind and I found
that kismet or droidstumbler will log the necessary data (
http://www.wirelessleiden.nl/projects/heatmap/wiki/datacoll ) and then
you can use kisheat ( http://code.google.com/p/kisheat/ ) to display it
overlayed on good maps.

This ( http://sunng87.github.io/heatcanvas/ ) looks like it might be a
another possibility.

I'm certain that something could be hacked up to work with Grass GIS (
http://grass.osgeo.org/ ), but thats like using a sledge hammer to kill
a fly.

I don't really see anything that does exactly what you want all in one
package. Perhaps you might be able to use a hybid solution where you
use linux/android to collect the data and then import it into the other
software under wine.... if it even works.

Brian Cluff

On 06/20/2013 07:51 AM, Dazed_75 wrote:
> Yes, I have used WiFi Analyzer for years on my phone and on a couple of
> tablets. It is useful to spot channel conflicts and to see what is
> available in a location and relative strengths of different nets. It is
> NOT useful for the Heatmap analysis of a home or office without a lot of
> manual work. Hence my interest in the product initially asked about. I
> guess it is time to try it under WINE in the next day or two.
>
> Thanks for all the input and discussion folks.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:50 AM, Michael Butash <
> <mailto:michael@butash.net>> wrote:
>
>     I use inssider on my tablet for quickie survey data, it looks
>     similar to wifi analyzer and is free too.  Either is probably good
>     in a pinch, and then some.

>
>     I bought a spectrum analyzer, a metageek dbx, that unfortunately has
>     most investment of features in windoze software, but kismet has a
>     side project spectools to get basic readings out of it graphically
>     as well for linux.  For the windoze software, I feed the device into
>     virtual box on an xp instance along with a wifi nic, and this gives
>     me most all the functionality of both worlds.

>
>     Mapping though, I didn't see much about the one wifiscanandmap vs.
>     something like ekahau or airmagnet survey suites.  Oh yeah, their
>     main site was dead then too which didn't help me wanting to bother
>     get working.  Of course the commercial tools are a good 5-10k for
>     the tools, require windoze, and still come with quirks to use, but
>     do what you generally need, which is record and display overlays of
>     the traffic adequately.

>
>     If wifiscanandmap can, I'll definitely check it out again. Otherwise
>     I'm just gonna get my company to buy me airmagnet suites at some
>     point.  :)

>
>     I was hoping there was something for rtls location tracking in
>     linux, but there were only a few abandoned projects out there.  Wifi
>     mapping suites like airwave are only so accurate without rtls, but
>     rtls is much nicer for realtime mapping accuracy, such as rfid
>     tracking of .11 tags.

>
>     -mb

>
>
>
>     On 06/19/2013 08:01 PM, Lyle Tuttle wrote:

>
>         This "might" be better after looking at the comments...I use it,
>         and it
>         does not "map", but does tell me what is available and how
>         strong the
>         signal is, and the SSID:

>
>         https://play.google.com/store/__apps/details?id=com.farproc.__wifi.analyzer&feature=search___result#?t=__W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5mYXJwcm__9jLndpZmkuYW5hbHl6ZXIiXQ
>         <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5mYXJwcm9jLndpZmkuYW5hbHl6ZXIiXQ>
>         ..

>
>         At 03:43 PM 6/19/2013, James Finstrom wrote:

>
>             looks like this android app does this....

>
>             https://play.google.com/store/__apps/details?id=com.hogdex.__WifiMapMakerFree
>             <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hogdex.WifiMapMakerFree>
>             Wifi Map makerÂ
>             DISCLAIMER: Haven't tried it.

>
>
>
>                    *ಠ_ಠ*

>
>
>
>
>
>
>             On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM, James Finstrom
>             <
>             <mailto:jfinstrom@rhinoequipment.com>
>             <mailto:jfinstrom@__rhinoequipment.com
>             <mailto:jfinstrom@rhinoequipment.com>>>

>
>             wrote:

>
>                  Seems like something easily done in python. Â This does
>             require
>                  gps so thinking it would be better as an android app.

>
>                  James Finstrom
>                  Rhino Equipment
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>
>
>
>                        *ಠ_ಠ*

>
>
>
>
>
>
>                  On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Dazed_75
>             < <mailto:lthielster@gmail.com>
>                  <mailto:lthielster@gmail.com
>             <mailto:lthielster@gmail.com>>> wrote:

>
>                      Lisa,

>
>                      I did not try it in WINE.  I am just enough of a
>             bigot to
>                      look for a pure Linux solution first since I do not
>             have a
>                      work project I need to complete.

>
>             https://github.com/__cyberpython/WifiScanAndMap
>             <https://github.com/cyberpython/WifiScanAndMap> seems to
>                      indicate something far from having a polished GUI
>             and looks to
>                      be at a significantly lower map resolution (though
>             worth a
>                      look if nothing else turns up).

>
>                      The Meraki FAQ (
>             http://meraki.cisco.com/__products/wireless/wifi-mapper#__faq <http://meraki.cisco.com/products/wireless/wifi-mapper#faq>
>             )
>                      says "A: WiFi Mapper requires Java support and does not
>                      currently support Linux."

>
>                      Michael,

>
>                      Yep on the corner on the market.  Makes one thonk
>             it could be
>                      a great opportunity for a FOSS project.  :)

>
>
>
>
>
>
>                      On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Michael Butash
>                      < <mailto:michael@butash.net>
>             <mailto:michael@butash.net <mailto:michael@butash.net>>> wrote:

>
>                          I've been working on a wireless project for
>             months, and
>                          looked around for things oss like heatmapping, rtls
>                          function, etc, and there's nothing too well
>             baked to use
>                          production-wise aside from some half-baked,
>             minimally
>                          existing projects on sourceforge.

>
>                          Seems commercial software like Aruba Airwave, Cisco
>                          WLS/Prime, Ekahau, etc have the lock on things
>             from that
>                          perspective.

>
>                          -mb

>
>
>
>
>                          On 06/19/2013 09:00 AM, Dazed_75 wrote:

>
>                              I ran across this article:

>
>             http://www.howtogeek.com/__165614/how-to-create-a-wi-fi-__heatmap-for-network-analysis-__better-coverage-and-geek-cred-__galore/
>             <http://www.howtogeek.com/165614/how-to-create-a-wi-fi-heatmap-for-network-analysis-better-coverage-and-geek-cred-galore/>

>
>
>                              which shows doing a very nifty wifi map of
>             your space.
>                              Â Unfortunately it
>                              uses a windows only program from Ekahau called
>                              HeatMap. Â I did a little
>                              web searching for a Linux equivalent
>             program but have
>                              not found anything
>                              that included the mapping function. Â Does
>             anyone know
>                              of one?

>
>                              --
>                              Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry

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