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Author: Dazed_75
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To: Mike Butash, Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: Looking for Linux Equivalent Program
Yes, I have used WiFi Analyzer for years on my phone and on a couple of
tablets. It is useful to spot channel conflicts and to see what is
available in a location and relative strengths of different nets. It is
NOT useful for the Heatmap analysis of a home or office without a lot of
manual work. Hence my interest in the product initially asked about. I
guess it is time to try it under WINE in the next day or two.

Thanks for all the input and discussion folks.


On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 12:50 AM, Michael Butash <> wrote:

> I use inssider on my tablet for quickie survey data, it looks similar to
> wifi analyzer and is free too. Either is probably good in a pinch, and
> then some.
>
> I bought a spectrum analyzer, a metageek dbx, that unfortunately has most
> investment of features in windoze software, but kismet has a side project
> spectools to get basic readings out of it graphically as well for linux.
> For the windoze software, I feed the device into virtual box on an xp
> instance along with a wifi nic, and this gives me most all the
> functionality of both worlds.
>
> Mapping though, I didn't see much about the one wifiscanandmap vs.
> something like ekahau or airmagnet survey suites. Oh yeah, their main site
> was dead then too which didn't help me wanting to bother get working. Of
> course the commercial tools are a good 5-10k for the tools, require
> windoze, and still come with quirks to use, but do what you generally need,
> which is record and display overlays of the traffic adequately.
>
> If wifiscanandmap can, I'll definitely check it out again. Otherwise I'm
> just gonna get my company to buy me airmagnet suites at some point. :)
>
> I was hoping there was something for rtls location tracking in linux, but
> there were only a few abandoned projects out there. Wifi mapping suites
> like airwave are only so accurate without rtls, but rtls is much nicer for
> realtime mapping accuracy, such as rfid tracking of .11 tags.
>
> -mb
>
>
>
> On 06/19/2013 08:01 PM, Lyle Tuttle wrote:
>
>> This "might" be better after looking at the comments...I use it, and it
>> does not "map", but does tell me what is available and how strong the
>> signal is, and the SSID:
>>
>> https://play.google.com/store/**apps/details?id=com.farproc.**
>> wifi.analyzer&feature=search_**result#?t=**W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5mYXJwcm
>> **9jLndpZmkuYW5hbHl6ZXIiXQ<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5mYXJwcm9jLndpZmkuYW5hbHl6ZXIiXQ>
>> ..
>>
>> At 03:43 PM 6/19/2013, James Finstrom wrote:
>>
>>> looks like this android app does this....
>>>
>>> https://play.google.com/store/**apps/details?id=com.hogdex.**
>>> WifiMapMakerFree<https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hogdex.WifiMapMakerFree>
>>> Wifi Map makerÂ
>>> DISCLAIMER: Haven't tried it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       *ಠ_ಠ*

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM, James Finstrom
>>> < <mailto:jfinstrom@**rhinoequipment.com<>
>>> >>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Seems like something easily done in python. Â This does require
>>>     gps so thinking it would be better as an android app.

>>>
>>>     James Finstrom
>>>     Rhino Equipment
>>>     http://rhinoequipment.com
>>>     Twitter: http://twitter.com/**rhinoequipment<http://twitter.com/rhinoequipment>
>>>     Facebook: http://facebook.com/**RhinoEquipment<http://facebook.com/RhinoEquipment>

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>           *ಠ_ಠ*

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Dazed_75 <
>>>     <mailto:lthielster@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>>
>>>         Lisa,

>>>
>>>         I did not try it in WINE.  I am just enough of a bigot to
>>>         look for a pure Linux solution first since I do not have a
>>>         work project I need to complete.

>>>
>>>         https://github.com/**cyberpython/WifiScanAndMap<https://github.com/cyberpython/WifiScanAndMap>seems to
>>>         indicate something far from having a polished GUI and looks to
>>>         be at a significantly lower map resolution (though worth a
>>>         look if nothing else turns up).

>>>
>>>         The Meraki FAQ (
>>>         http://meraki.cisco.com/**products/wireless/wifi-mapper#**faq<http://meraki.cisco.com/products/wireless/wifi-mapper#faq>)
>>>         says "A: WiFi Mapper requires Java support and does not
>>>         currently support Linux."

>>>
>>>         Michael,

>>>
>>>         Yep on the corner on the market.  Makes one thonk it could be
>>>         a great opportunity for a FOSS project.  :)

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Michael Butash
>>>         < <mailto:michael@butash.net>> wrote:

>>>
>>>             I've been working on a wireless project for months, and
>>>             looked around for things oss like heatmapping, rtls
>>>             function, etc, and there's nothing too well baked to use
>>>             production-wise aside from some half-baked, minimally
>>>             existing projects on sourceforge.

>>>
>>>             Seems commercial software like Aruba Airwave, Cisco
>>>             WLS/Prime, Ekahau, etc have the lock on things from that
>>>             perspective.

>>>
>>>             -mb

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>             On 06/19/2013 09:00 AM, Dazed_75 wrote:

>>>
>>>                 I ran across this article:

>>>
>>>                 http://www.howtogeek.com/**165614/how-to-create-a-wi-fi-
>>> **heatmap-for-network-analysis-**better-coverage-and-geek-cred-**galore/<http://www.howtogeek.com/165614/how-to-create-a-wi-fi-heatmap-for-network-analysis-better-coverage-and-geek-cred-galore/>

>>>
>>>
>>>                 which shows doing a very nifty wifi map of your space.
>>>                 Â Unfortunately it
>>>                 uses a windows only program from Ekahau called
>>>                 HeatMap. Â I did a little
>>>                 web searching for a Linux equivalent program but have
>>>                 not found anything
>>>                 that included the mapping function. Â Does anyone know
>>>                 of one?

>>>
>>>                 --
>>>                 Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry

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