Re: Off Topic Discussions

>     On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 01:06:44 PM Ted Gould wrote:
>     Wonderful, and your blog is a great place for that.  I support you
>     being
>     outspoken about the issues in your private space.  But the PLUG
>     list is a
>     communal space, and with that comes certain communal norms.  For
>     instance: no
>     shoes, no shirt, no service.  That establishes norms for certain
>     areas that
>     contain that banner.  Certainly it restricts your freedom, but it
>     is also
>     about someone establishing norms in a space to encourage a more
>     diverse set of
>     participants.

>     Ted

>     What is ironic is we have destroyed the community of the PLUG. I
>     have been on
>     this list for over 10 years. Through that time I have come to know
>     many people
>     whom I consider friends. While the list may have a specific focus,
>     since the
>     beginning, us friends used this list to communicate all kinds of
>     things that
>     we cared about and we shared it with eachother through the list as
>     a means for
>     creating a group discussion rather than just between a few of us.

>     Society has changed. In our vast attempt to be open minded of
>     everyone else
>     and tolerant, almost entirely pushed by the LGBT groups, no one is
>     tolerant of
>     anything and no one is allowed to say anything for fear of
>     offending someone
>     else. You know, we have a freedom of speech in this country and
>     not every word
>     spoken is hateful though it may personally offend *you*.

>     Grow up. Put your big boy pants on and stop whining! This isn't
>     the third
>     grade anymore. I have opinions and a right to share them. You have
>     opinions
>     and whether I agree with them or not I want to hear them!

>     God forbid someone challenge someone. I have a strong foundation
>     and I know
>     what I believe, but you telling your opinion about something that
>     I do not
>     agree with does not shake my foundation so much that I get upset
>     and I can no
>     longer think for my self. I value other peoples opinions,
>     otherwise I would
>     not share my own.

>     When Obama was elected the first round he stated he wanted his
>     cabinet to be
>     filled with people who did not agree with him. I thought it was  a
>     brilliant
>     idea! What better than a large group of advisors who will share
>     differing
>     opinions. Of course, later we found out the advisors were nothing
>     more than
>     large contributors to his campaigns and he was repaying them for
>     their deeds.
>     What a loser.

>     If we cannot share our opinions then I formally request this list
>     become
>     moderated so that no one might accidentally offend the weak minded
>     on this
>     list.

>     Nathan
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