On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 11:26 AM, Nathan
England
<nathan@nmecs.com>
wrote:
On Wednesday, June 12, 2013 01:06:44 PM Ted Gould wrote:
Wonderful, and your blog is a great place for that. I
support you being
outspoken about the issues in your private space. But the
PLUG list is a
communal space, and with that comes certain communal norms.
For instance: no
shoes, no shirt, no service. That establishes norms for
certain areas that
contain that banner. Certainly it restricts your freedom,
but it is also
about someone establishing norms in a space to encourage a
more diverse set of
participants.
Ted
What is ironic is we have destroyed the community of the PLUG.
I have been on
this list for over 10 years. Through that time I have come to
know many people
whom I consider friends. While the list may have a specific
focus, since the
beginning, us friends used this list to communicate all kinds
of things that
we cared about and we shared it with eachother through the
list as a means for
creating a group discussion rather than just between a few of
us.
Society has changed. In our vast attempt to be open minded of
everyone else
and tolerant, almost entirely pushed by the LGBT groups, no
one is tolerant of
anything and no one is allowed to say anything for fear of
offending someone
else. You know, we have a freedom of speech in this country
and not every word
spoken is hateful though it may personally offend *you*.
Grow up. Put your big boy pants on and stop whining! This
isn't the third
grade anymore. I have opinions and a right to share them. You
have opinions
and whether I agree with them or not I want to hear them!
God forbid someone challenge someone. I have a strong
foundation and I know
what I believe, but you telling your opinion about something
that I do not
agree with does not shake my foundation so much that I get
upset and I can no
longer think for my self. I value other peoples opinions,
otherwise I would
not share my own.
When Obama was elected the first round he stated he wanted his
cabinet to be
filled with people who did not agree with him. I thought it
was a brilliant
idea! What better than a large group of advisors who will
share differing
opinions. Of course, later we found out the advisors were
nothing more than
large contributors to his campaigns and he was repaying them
for their deeds.
What a loser.
If we cannot share our opinions then I formally request this
list become
moderated so that no one might accidentally offend the weak
minded on this
list.
Nathan