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Author: Alan Dayley
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Subject: Re: I'm Attending Defcon this August, advice?
Why in the world would anyone actually attend a conference where you KNOW
people are going to attack your electronics and data? Erasing everyone's
credit cards? For the lulz, I guess. It sounds like a bunch of very smart
trolls getting together to see who can out-troll who. I would just
be collateral damage in such a group. I guess it's an effective way to keep
the non-trolls and newbies out of the "defcon club." Or maybe it is a from
of hazing.

And, if I HAD to go, cash, pen and paper is all I would bring.

Alan





On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:18 AM, Lisa Kachold <>wrote:

> Laugh!
>
> If you take that Ubuntu install to DefCon and connect to the network
> there, every place you connect with/to authenticate to/with will be
> endangered. All of the sites you visit irregardless of protocol
> (encryption) will provide login/password and URL to others listening and
> MITM'ing. A VPN is your only partial protection (depending on what your
> using - no PPTP and easily encroached router firmware). Just do
> DefCon,there is enough to do, write about and learn while there. If you
> must work, get a room across town (in a cheap fleabag and drive over)
> although i*t should be noted that ANY protection you would make for
> DefCon needs to be made EVERYWHERE or you risk pwnership. *
>
>
> Someone brought a huge demagnetizer to DefCon 6, carrying it around in
> their backpack; everyone was stranded since they couldn't pay for their
> hotel or food, taxi's as about 800 cards were wiped.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Phil Waclawski <
> > wrote:
>
>> I already know not to bring your regular cell phone, and bring a "burn"
>> phone instead, and I'm bringing a laptop that will be a fresh kubuntu
>> install, locked down etc with nothing on it that I care about.
>>
>> Is there any reasonably secure way to use the internet at defcon, or is
>> that a pipe dream? I personally had just figured to use the laptop for
>> offline work (some blender training etc), but I am curious.
>>
>> Also, I will have to use my credit card to pay for the hotel, but that
>> will be the only time I use it (I plan on using cash as much as possible at
>> the event). Thankfully my credit card does not have rfid, but that doesn't
>> make it less vulnerable to shoulder surfing and other problems (fake card
>> readers etc).
>>
>> So, I've had a bit of advice from Chris Lewis, but I'm curious as to what
>> others think ;)
>>
>> Phil Waclawski
>> MCC CIS Faculty
>>
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