Re: OT: Re: Starting Today, It's Illegal to Unlock Your Cel…

Top Page
Attachments:
Message as email
+ (text/plain)
Delete this message
Reply to this message
Author: Kevin Brown
Date:  
To: plug-discuss
Subject: Re: OT: Re: Starting Today, It's Illegal to Unlock Your Cellphone
That depends. Shortwave radios can reach a long distance on little
power. AM requires more, but can also go quite some distance. So, there
are certain limits that if you go over them you have to have a license
because of the chance of going farther than your local municipality. I
believe for FM radios it is 100W (which is 100x the strength of what
your local wireless router is allowed to get up to).
> You make some good points. It does make sense to have one standard
> for the nation instead of 50 for radio, tv, cell phones, etc. I do
> have to wonder why the FCC should have any involvement in a radio
> station whose signal does not reach beyond Arizona. If someone wants
> to establish a radio station in Ajo and only cover Ajo, why should
> they have to get permission from some bureaucrat in Washington?
>
> On 02/16/2013 11:25 PM, Kevin Brown wrote:
>> While it has been used wrongly in some ways, that doesn't mean your
>> interpretation is correct. In fact it makes no mention excluding the
>> rights solely to taxation/tariffs. In the case of something like
>> Radio waves that don't pay attention to political borders, it makes
>> sense for them to be regulated at the Federal level rather than the
>> State. Unless, you'd rather have to find a router for your network
>> that only worked in AZ...
>>>
>>> Commerce clause has been false interpreted to extend Federal
>>> authority. It was put in place to ensure there were no trade
>>> tariffs between states. Not to regulate commerce as large.
>>>
>>> ------------------------
>>> Keith Smith
>>>
>>> --- On *Sat, 2/16/13, Kevin Brown /<>/* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     From: Kevin Brown <>
>>>     Subject: Re: OT: Re: Starting Today, It's Illegal to Unlock Your
>>>     Cellphone
>>>     To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <>
>>>     Date: Saturday, February 16, 2013, 2:07 PM

>>>
>>>       The FCC exists under the Commerce clause of the US Constitution.
>>> > Are cellular phones one of the numerated power of the Federal
>>>     Government?

>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ------------------------
>>> > Keith Smith
>>> >
>>> > --- On *Sat, 2/16/13, ChasM Marshall /<
>>> </mc/compose?to=>>/* wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     From: ChasM Marshall <
>>> </mc/compose?to=>>
>>> >     Subject: RE: OT: Re: Starting Today, It's Illegal to Unlock Your
>>> >     Cellphone
>>> >     To: "
>>> </mc/compose?to=>"
>>> > <
>>> </mc/compose?to=>>
>>> >     Date: Saturday, February 16, 2013, 1:42 PM

>>> >
>>> >     What am I doing?
>>> >     Well, I've NEVER bought a cell phone.  Carriers don't appear
>>>     to be
>>> >     regulated.
>>> >     I've waited half my life just to see "Do Not Call" enforced at a
>>> >     Federal level.

>>> >
>>> >
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> >     Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 06:02:51 -0700
>>> >     To: 
>>> </mc/compose?to=>
>>> >     From:  </mc/compose?to=>
>>> >     Subject: OT: Re: Starting Today, It's Illegal to Unlock Your
>>>     Cellphone

>>> >
>>> >     Yes, I agree.  The question is, "What are you doing about
>>>     it?"  An
>>> >     inch at a time.....

>>> >
>>> >     At 11:00 AM 1/26/2013, Derek Trotter wrote:

>>> >
>>> >         I can't argue Keith.  This is no longer a free country. 
>>>     It's
>>> >         not even a republic.  It's a bureaucracy. People who are
>>> >         unelected and unaccountable to the people are now making the
>>> >         laws and changing them anytime they feel like it.

>>> >
>>> >         On 01/26/2013 08:28 AM, keith smith wrote:

>>> >
>>> >
>>> >             I know some of you do not agree with my limited
>>>     government
>>> >             position, however this is what a run away government
>>> >             does.  We pay for our phones with those two year
>>> >             contracts.  Our rates would be lower if they did not
>>> >             "subsidize" our phones.  These phones are our property.

>>> >
>>> >             Hold onto your seat.  This is just an example of how
>>>     a run
>>> >             away government is going to treat it's people.

>>> >
>>> >             This is not freedom, this is bondage.

>>> >
>>> >             Th article says in part:

>>> >
>>> >             The worst-case scenario for an individual or civil
>>>     offense
>>> >             could be as much as a $2,500 fine. As for those planning
>>> >             to profit off of the act or a criminal offense --
>>>     such as
>>> >             a cellphone reseller -- the fine could be as high as
>>> >             $500,000 and include prison time.

>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/now-illegal-unlock-cellphone/story?id=18319518
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >             ------------------------
>>> >             Keith Smith

>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ---------------------------------------------------
>>> >             PLUG-discuss mailing list -

>>> >
>>> > 
>>> </mc/compose?to=>
>>> </mc/compose?to=
>>> </mc/compose?to=>>
>>> >             To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail
>>>     settings:

>>> >
>>> > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >         --
>>> >         "I get my copy of the daily paper, look at the
>>>     obituaries page, and
>>> >         if I’m not there, I carry on as usual."

>>> >
>>> >         Patrick
>>> >         Moore

>>> >
>>> > ---------------------------------------------------
>>> >         PLUG-discuss mailing list -
>>>     
>>> </mc/compose?to=>
>>> >         To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
>>> > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss

>>> >
>>> >
>>> >     --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss
>>> >     mailing list - 
>>> </mc/compose?to=> To subscribe,
>>> >     unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
>>> > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss

>>> >
>>> >     -----Inline Attachment Follows-----

>>> >
>>> >     ---------------------------------------------------
>>> >     PLUG-discuss mailing list - 
>>> </mc/compose?to=>
>>> > </mc/compose?to=
>>> </mc/compose?to=>>
>>> >     To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
>>> > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss

>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ---------------------------------------------------
>>> > PLUG-discuss mailing list -
>>> </mc/compose?to=>
>>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
>>> > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
>>>
>>>     ---------------------------------------------------
>>>     PLUG-discuss mailing list - 
>>> </mc/compose?to=>
>>>     To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
>>>     http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss

>>>
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------
>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list -
>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>> PLUG-discuss mailing list -
>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
>


---------------------------------------------------
PLUG-discuss mailing list -
To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:
http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss