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Author: Derek Trotter
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To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: OT: Re: Starting Today, It's Illegal to Unlock Your Cellphone
You make some good points. It does make sense to have one standard for
the nation instead of 50 for radio, tv, cell phones, etc. I do have to
wonder why the FCC should have any involvement in a radio station whose
signal does not reach beyond Arizona. If someone wants to establish a
radio station in Ajo and only cover Ajo, why should they have to get
permission from some bureaucrat in Washington?

On 02/16/2013 11:25 PM, Kevin Brown wrote:
> While it has been used wrongly in some ways, that doesn't mean your
> interpretation is correct. In fact it makes no mention excluding the
> rights solely to taxation/tariffs. In the case of something like Radio
> waves that don't pay attention to political borders, it makes sense
> for them to be regulated at the Federal level rather than the State.
> Unless, you'd rather have to find a router for your network that only
> worked in AZ...
>>
>> Commerce clause has been false interpreted to extend Federal
>> authority. It was put in place to ensure there were no trade tariffs
>> between states. Not to regulate commerce as large.
>>
>> ------------------------
>> Keith Smith
>>
>> --- On *Sat, 2/16/13, Kevin Brown /<>/* wrote:
>>
>>
>>     From: Kevin Brown <>
>>     Subject: Re: OT: Re: Starting Today, It's Illegal to Unlock Your
>>     Cellphone
>>     To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <>
>>     Date: Saturday, February 16, 2013, 2:07 PM

>>
>>       The FCC exists under the Commerce clause of the US Constitution.
>>     > Are cellular phones one of the numerated power of the Federal
>>     Government?
>>     >

>>     >
>>     > ------------------------
>>     > Keith Smith

>>     >
>>     > --- On *Sat, 2/16/13, ChasM Marshall /<
>>     </mc/compose?to=>>/* wrote:

>>     >

>>     >
>>     >     From: ChasM Marshall <
>>     </mc/compose?to=>>
>>     >     Subject: RE: OT: Re: Starting Today, It's Illegal to Unlock 
>> Your
>>     >     Cellphone
>>     >     To: "
>>     </mc/compose?to=>"
>>     > <
>>     </mc/compose?to=>>
>>     >     Date: Saturday, February 16, 2013, 1:42 PM

>>     >
>>     >     What am I doing?
>>     >     Well, I've NEVER bought a cell phone.  Carriers don't appear
>>     to be
>>     >     regulated.
>>     >     I've waited half my life just to see "Do Not Call" enforced 
>> at a
>>     >     Federal level.

>>     >

>>     > 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     >     Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2013 06:02:51 -0700
>>     >     To: 
>>     </mc/compose?to=>
>>     >     From:  </mc/compose?to=>
>>     >     Subject: OT: Re: Starting Today, It's Illegal to Unlock Your
>>     Cellphone

>>     >
>>     >     Yes, I agree.  The question is, "What are you doing about
>>     it?"  An
>>     >     inch at a time.....

>>     >
>>     >     At 11:00 AM 1/26/2013, Derek Trotter wrote:

>>     >
>>     >         I can't argue Keith.  This is no longer a free country. 
>>     It's
>>     >         not even a republic.  It's a bureaucracy. People who are
>>     >         unelected and unaccountable to the people are now 
>> making the
>>     >         laws and changing them anytime they feel like it.

>>     >
>>     >         On 01/26/2013 08:28 AM, keith smith wrote:

>>     >

>>     >
>>     >             I know some of you do not agree with my limited
>>     government
>>     >             position, however this is what a run away government
>>     >             does.  We pay for our phones with those two year
>>     >             contracts.  Our rates would be lower if they did not
>>     >             "subsidize" our phones.  These phones are our 
>> property.

>>     >
>>     >             Hold onto your seat.  This is just an example of how
>>     a run
>>     >             away government is going to treat it's people.

>>     >
>>     >             This is not freedom, this is bondage.

>>     >
>>     >             Th article says in part:

>>     >
>>     >             The worst-case scenario for an individual or civil
>>     offense
>>     >             could be as much as a $2,500 fine. As for those 
>> planning
>>     >             to profit off of the act or a criminal offense --
>>     such as
>>     >             a cellphone reseller -- the fine could be as high as
>>     >             $500,000 and include prison time.

>>     >

>>     >
>> http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/now-illegal-unlock-cellphone/story?id=18319518

>>     >

>>     >

>>     >

>>     >

>>     >

>>     >
>>     >             ------------------------
>>     >             Keith Smith

>>     >

>>     >

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