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Author: Michael Havens
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Subject: Re: network guys
thanks. I'll fix my jumper tomorrow and hopefully this will fix it.
:-)~MIKE~(-:


On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:21 PM, Michael Butash <> wrote:

> Yes, and make both sides match. Look up EIA/TIA T568A/B standards. Just
> have to make sure as if you reverse green and orange on one side, you make
> a crossover, but colors are used somewhat interchangeably for
> straight-through cables as long as they match.
>
> Keep the pairs as twisted and sheathed inside the rj45 as much as possible
> when you crimp, otherwise you get interference that equals errors.
>
> -mb
>
>
>
> On 02/10/2013 11:03 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
>
>> so is this correct?
>>
>>     stripe orange,orange
>>     stripe green,blue
>>     stripe blue,green
>>     stripe brown,brown
>> :-)~MIKE~(-:

>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Brian Cluff <
>> <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     That's definetely not standard, but at least it looks like you have
>>     kept the color pairs together, so you wouldn't have one side of a
>>     connection on one pair and the other on a different pair.
>>     A Cable wired with what you have been doing should work OK.  Just
>>     make sure you don't strip the ends first ;)

>>
>>     I would go ahead and use the proper color code just so that someone
>>     else that comes across one of your connections won't be confused.

>>
>>     Brian Cluff

>>
>>
>>     On 02/10/2013 10:25 PM, Michael Havens wrote:

>>
>>         so then (my cables are stripe, solid) the proper way to do it is:

>>
>>             stripe orange,orange
>>             stripe green,blue
>>             stripe blue,green
>>             stripe brown,brown

>>
>>         I was taught,

>>
>>             blue, stripe blue
>>             green, stripe orange
>>             orange, stripe green
>>             brown, stripe brown
>>         :-)~MIKE~(-:

>>
>>
>>         On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Brian Cluff <
>>         <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>
>>         <mailto:brian@snaptek.com <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>>> wrote:

>>
>>              There is definitely a color code you need to follow for
>>         Ethernet.
>>                If you just use the same colors on both side the wires
>>         won't be
>>              twisted inside the cable correctly and the cable will be
>>         noisey and
>>              give poor performance.

>>
>>              12345678
>>              ||||||||
>>              |      |
>>              |      |
>>              |[====]|
>>              |______|
>>                 |  |
>>                 |  |

>>
>>              (With the plugs conductors facing you)

>>
>>              1 white-orange
>>              2 orange-white
>>              3 white-green
>>              4 Blue-white
>>              5 white-blue
>>              6 green-white
>>              7 white-brown
>>              8 brown-white

>>
>>              Do both ends exactly the same, make sure you press the
>>         cable in so
>>              that all the wires touch the end of the plug.

>>
>>              That should make a good cable.

>>
>>              10 and 100 Mb cables use pins 123 and 6, 1000Mb cables use
>>         all 8.

>>
>>              Pin 1 and 2 are twisted together and pins 3 and 6 are twisted
>>              together.  If you just put the same colors on both sides
>>         you will at
>>              least be making pins 3 and 6 not have their proper twists.

>>
>>              Brian Cluff

>>
>>
>>              On 02/10/2013 03:57 PM, Michael Havens wrote:

>>
>>                  you forgot the link but I guess it is the cable.  I had
>>         a long
>>                  enough
>>                  cable to just connect it without it looking pretty and
>>         it worked. I
>>                  don't know though. My connections are good (I think)
>>           so maybe
>>                  it is the
>>                  cable itself. That is all I can think of.
>>                  :-)~MIKE~(-:

>>
>>
>>                  On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Stephen
>>         < <mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com>
>>         <mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com <mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com>>
>>         <mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com <mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com>
>>         <mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com <mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com>>**>__>

>>
>>         wrote:

>>
>>                       I would take a gander at this link, and look at
>>         the various
>>                       diagrams. especially the notes at the end.

>>
>>
>>                       On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Michael Havens
>>         < <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>
>>         <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>
>>         <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>
>>         <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>>> wrote:

>>
>>                           okay, I thought I did it correctly.... I mean
>>         the modem is
>>                           lights when I plug the new cable in but my
>> brother
>>                  tells me that
>>                           he still isn't connected and his box (windows)
>>         won't ping
>>                           google. You just need to make the pairs alike
>>         on each end,
>>                           right? I answered that question by looking at
>>         a known good
>>                           cable. I just replaced the rj45s and same
>>         thing. I just
>>                           restarted the ms box and after it started the
>>         front network
>>                           computer icons lit up. Then I tried to renew
>>         the IP but it
>>                           failed. Then I left and came back to the
>>         computer and
>>                  there was
>>                           a bubble message that said it was connected
>>         but still
>>                  couldn't
>>                           get any pages to load. Then I disabled the
>>         connection and
>>                           reenabled  and it said it connected. What's
>>         going on?
>>                           :-)~MIKE~(-:

>>
>>
>>                           On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Michael Havens
>>         < <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>
>>         <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>
>>         <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>
>>         <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>>> wrote:

>>
>>                               thanks brian.... I made a mistake then.
>>         Bummer!
>>                               :-)~MIKE~(-:

>>
>>
>>                               On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Brian Cluff
>>         < <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>
>>         <mailto:brian@snaptek.com <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>>
>>         <mailto:brian@snaptek.com <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>
>>         <mailto:brian@snaptek.com <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>>>> wrote:

>>
>>                                   No, Just crimp it the conductors on
>>         the RJ45
>>                  jack will
>>                                   pierce the insulation.  If you have
>>         stripped
>>                  it, it will
>>                                   probably short inside the plug.

>>
>>                                   Brian Cluff

>>
>>
>>                                   On 02/09/2013 10:02 PM, Michael Havens
>>         wrote:

>>
>>                                       I feel retarded..... I can't
>>         remember if
>>                  you are
>>                                       supposed to strip cat 5
>>                                       to the copper before you crimp it.
>> I'm
>>                  thinking no
>>                                       but I need to make sure.
>>                                       :-)~MIKE~(-:

>>
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