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Author: Michael Butash
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To: plug-discuss
Subject: Re: network guys
Yes, and make both sides match. Look up EIA/TIA T568A/B standards.
Just have to make sure as if you reverse green and orange on one side,
you make a crossover, but colors are used somewhat interchangeably for
straight-through cables as long as they match.

Keep the pairs as twisted and sheathed inside the rj45 as much as
possible when you crimp, otherwise you get interference that equals errors.

-mb


On 02/10/2013 11:03 PM, Michael Havens wrote:
> so is this correct?
>
>     stripe orange,orange
>     stripe green,blue
>     stripe blue,green
>     stripe brown,brown
> :-)~MIKE~(-:

>
>
> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Brian Cluff <
> <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>> wrote:
>
>     That's definetely not standard, but at least it looks like you have
>     kept the color pairs together, so you wouldn't have one side of a
>     connection on one pair and the other on a different pair.
>     A Cable wired with what you have been doing should work OK.  Just
>     make sure you don't strip the ends first ;)

>
>     I would go ahead and use the proper color code just so that someone
>     else that comes across one of your connections won't be confused.

>
>     Brian Cluff

>
>
>     On 02/10/2013 10:25 PM, Michael Havens wrote:

>
>         so then (my cables are stripe, solid) the proper way to do it is:

>
>             stripe orange,orange
>             stripe green,blue
>             stripe blue,green
>             stripe brown,brown

>
>         I was taught,

>
>             blue, stripe blue
>             green, stripe orange
>             orange, stripe green
>             brown, stripe brown
>         :-)~MIKE~(-:

>
>
>         On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Brian Cluff <
>         <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>
>         <mailto:brian@snaptek.com <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>>> wrote:

>
>              There is definitely a color code you need to follow for
>         Ethernet.
>                If you just use the same colors on both side the wires
>         won't be
>              twisted inside the cable correctly and the cable will be
>         noisey and
>              give poor performance.

>
>              12345678
>              ||||||||
>              |      |
>              |      |
>              |[====]|
>              |______|
>                 |  |
>                 |  |

>
>              (With the plugs conductors facing you)

>
>              1 white-orange
>              2 orange-white
>              3 white-green
>              4 Blue-white
>              5 white-blue
>              6 green-white
>              7 white-brown
>              8 brown-white

>
>              Do both ends exactly the same, make sure you press the
>         cable in so
>              that all the wires touch the end of the plug.

>
>              That should make a good cable.

>
>              10 and 100 Mb cables use pins 123 and 6, 1000Mb cables use
>         all 8.

>
>              Pin 1 and 2 are twisted together and pins 3 and 6 are twisted
>              together.  If you just put the same colors on both sides
>         you will at
>              least be making pins 3 and 6 not have their proper twists.

>
>              Brian Cluff

>
>
>              On 02/10/2013 03:57 PM, Michael Havens wrote:

>
>                  you forgot the link but I guess it is the cable.  I had
>         a long
>                  enough
>                  cable to just connect it without it looking pretty and
>         it worked. I
>                  don't know though. My connections are good (I think)
>           so maybe
>                  it is the
>                  cable itself. That is all I can think of.
>                  :-)~MIKE~(-:

>
>
>                  On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Stephen
>         < <mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com>
>         <mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com <mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com>>
>         <mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com <mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com>
>         <mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com <mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com>>>__>
>         wrote:

>
>                       I would take a gander at this link, and look at
>         the various
>                       diagrams. especially the notes at the end.

>
>
>                       On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Michael Havens
>         < <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>
>         <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>
>         <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>
>         <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>>> wrote:

>
>                           okay, I thought I did it correctly.... I mean
>         the modem is
>                           lights when I plug the new cable in but my brother
>                  tells me that
>                           he still isn't connected and his box (windows)
>         won't ping
>                           google. You just need to make the pairs alike
>         on each end,
>                           right? I answered that question by looking at
>         a known good
>                           cable. I just replaced the rj45s and same
>         thing. I just
>                           restarted the ms box and after it started the
>         front network
>                           computer icons lit up. Then I tried to renew
>         the IP but it
>                           failed. Then I left and came back to the
>         computer and
>                  there was
>                           a bubble message that said it was connected
>         but still
>                  couldn't
>                           get any pages to load. Then I disabled the
>         connection and
>                           reenabled  and it said it connected. What's
>         going on?
>                           :-)~MIKE~(-:

>
>
>                           On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Michael Havens
>         < <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>
>         <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>
>         <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>
>         <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>>>> wrote:

>
>                               thanks brian.... I made a mistake then.
>         Bummer!
>                               :-)~MIKE~(-:

>
>
>                               On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Brian Cluff
>         < <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>
>         <mailto:brian@snaptek.com <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>>
>         <mailto:brian@snaptek.com <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>
>         <mailto:brian@snaptek.com <mailto:brian@snaptek.com>>>> wrote:

>
>                                   No, Just crimp it the conductors on
>         the RJ45
>                  jack will
>                                   pierce the insulation.  If you have
>         stripped
>                  it, it will
>                                   probably short inside the plug.

>
>                                   Brian Cluff

>
>
>                                   On 02/09/2013 10:02 PM, Michael Havens
>         wrote:

>
>                                       I feel retarded..... I can't
>         remember if
>                  you are
>                                       supposed to strip cat 5
>                                       to the copper before you crimp it. I'm
>                  thinking no
>                                       but I need to make sure.
>                                       :-)~MIKE~(-:

>
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