There are lots of 8gb n7s hitting ebay. And the app is linked to the market
it came from. Wich has an account associated to it. But i am not sure how
this works with multiple device accounts. That should be checked because if
the main device acct has an app linked to market and a Google account then
it should still work for the guest device account. But i have not seen this
for sure yet.
On Jan 4, 2013 11:50 PM, "der.hans" <
PLUGd@lufthans.com> wrote:
> Am 04. Jan, 2013 schwätzte Joseph Sinclair so:
>
> moin moin,
>
> I'll address your requirements in a list:
>> 1) Multiple Accounts
>> Any Android 4.2 or later has this already
>>
>
> OK. I thought it hit mainline Android, but I wasn't certain.
>
> 2) Parental Controls
>> a) Limit apps
>> Android and Google Play Store, just don't setup the kid account with
>> any cards, and use gift cards to fund the few apps you want him to have
>>
>
> In my case, he should have no ability to buy anything. He also doesn't
> need any Internet access unless there's parental participation. I could
> see allowing some Internet stuff, e.g. videos from a limited selection.
> Mostly his Internet use has been from adѕ in games :(. Don't need those
> for him either.
>
> I did find a couple of parental apps that look promising.
>
> Currently testing Kids Place. It explains why it needs the permissions it
> requests. I don't like the licensing, but I can deal with it for now.
>
> Most of the parental control apps were mostly interested in spying on the
> kids. Totally not what I need. I mostly just need to limit him to certain
> apps and would like to be able to add time limits. Kids Place has both of
> those features.
>
> Would still like a FLOSS licensed program.
>
> Hmm, he needs to buy the apps for his account? If you buy an app for a
> device is it limited to use by the account that bought it? If I want
> multiple accounts on a device to use something, I have to install it once
> for each account?
>
> Add a PIN on the "Wallet" usage and don't tell him the PIN
>> b) time limits
>> This, currently, requires a third-party app.
>> c) time limit per app
>> Same as (2)(b)
>>
>
> I think Kids Place doesn't have time limit per app, so I just left some of
> the games and video players out.
>
> 3) No Online account
>> You're out of luck here with Android; Android generally requires a
>> google account to buy apps, and for a bunch of other features. It's
>> *possible* to use without an account, but not terribly useful.
>>
>
> Well, no online account required for the parental controls. I don't need
> nor want a big brother app. I certainly don't want some other company
> gathering lots of data.
>
> I want Internet access from the adult account :). Heck, you know I want
> root on the box and I want to be able to ssh in!!! ;-)
>
> 4) Not fail if several days without internet
>> If it's turned off, it won't care. If it's turned on, just disable
>> background sync and sync manually once in a while, Android will be fine in
>> that mode. You can disable background sync on the "kid" account but leave
>> it enabled on the "adult" account if you like (but then you should connect
>> it to WiFi every couple days, just to limit the 10-minute-lockup-to-sync
>> issue).
>>
>
> Yeah, one of the reasons I don't like cloud, especially in a dry, clear
> sky environment like we have in much of rural Arizona :).
>
> 5) bumpers for safety and resilience
>> Either built in, or you can add a high-strength case option to any
>> Android tablet; such as a Nexus 10 or Nexus 7. The advantage of adding a
>> case is that you can choose a Nexus device for better value and *much*
>> earlier upgrades.
>>
>
> I was leaning towards a Nexus 7 for me anyway, maybe I'll start there and
> see if I can get it setup like I want.
>
> 6) gorilla glass (or similar)
>> Many tablets have this, or something similar. The current Nexus tablets
>> have hardened glass fronts.
>>
>
> Ah, cool.
>
> 7) Android (recent preferred)
>> Not Amazon (forked 2.x). Otherwise most decent tablets meet this
>> requirement.
>>
>
> Yeah, wasn't considering that anyway.
>
> Based on the above I'd actually get a Nexus 7 or Nexus 10 (depending on
>> which size you want, and how much you're willing to spend).
>> I'd add a high quality bumper case (these are just examples from a quick
>> search) like this: http://compare.ebay.com/like/**
>> 170942210851?var=lv<yp=**AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=**sbar<http://compare.ebay.com/like/170942210851?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar>or this:
>> http://compare.ebay.com/like/**400370705719?var=lv<yp=**
>> AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=**sbar<http://compare.ebay.com/like/400370705719?var=lv<yp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&var=sbar>
>>
>
> Oi, $50.00 for the case and only the 32GB Nexus 7 available means double
> the price of the kids Android devices. Yup, his personal tablet can wait
> for some prices to drop :).
>
> I'd also add a film-type screen protector overlay, just to have a little
>> scratch protection on the screen in case the little guy decides that the
>> sound of keys clattering on glass might be funny.
>>
>
> Good idea. I do that for all our phones, but have only gotten a film on
> half the tablets. I should make that SOP for a few more years :).
>
> With those, I'd then enable "my" account, and have my apps, settings,
>> etc...
>> I'd also enable the "Kid" account, with far fewer apps, a restricted
>> Google account, $5 Google Play gift card for apps (mostly used on the few
>> purchased apps), Lookout for Android, and a good Parental Controls app
>> (with a separate and very hard password).
>>
>
> Hadn't heard of lookout. Interesting, I'll consider it. As to the hard
> password, that's not yet necessary :).
>
> That's it; meets nearly all of your requirements (except the made-here,
>> which I suspect is nearly impossible at this point, and no-account-needed,
>> as described in item (3) ), and it's a nice tablet at a good price point.
>>
>
> I didn't say made here, I said not direct import from overseas. I know most
> of the hardware will unfortunately be made elsewhere. I want a US company
> to go to should there be a problem.
>
> I hope that helps.
>>
>
> It was quite helpful!
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
>
>
>> On 01/03/2013 11:03 PM, der.hans wrote:
>>
>>> moin moin,
>>>
>>> trying to get an Android tablet for my son. I would like something
>>> purchased here rather than as a direct import from whereever.
>>>
>>> I want multiple accounts and parental controls. The main reason for the
>>> controls at this point is to limit which apps he can get to and put time
>>> limits on the use of his account. I'd also like to have time limits per
>>> app, but that's a wishlist item.
>>>
>>> I definitely want parental controls that do not require an online
>>> account.
>>> I want as little 3rd party tracking of him and his tablet as possible. I
>>> also want something that's not going to bork up because it goes many days
>>> without an internet connection.
>>>
>>> If it weren't for me wanting to use it I'd just go without wifi and want
>>> a USB connection for package updates :).
>>>
>>> I found a bunch at toysrus that look OK, but the one I got immediately
>>> wants me to create an account for parental controls :(. It looks like
>>> they
>>> might all require that :(.
>>>
>>> http://www.toysrus.com/family/**index.jsp?categoryId=10869454<http://www.toysrus.com/family/index.jsp?categoryId=10869454>
>>>
>>> Has anyone found a parental controls app that doesn't require online
>>> tracking? Preferably it would be FLOSS licensed.
>>>
>>> In the end I really just need a tablet with bumpers, multiple accounts
>>> and
>>> parental controls. I would like gorilla glass as well, but will do my
>>> best
>>> to just keep him from trying to put anything through the screen :).
>>>
>>> I also want something with a recent version of android and would prefer
>>> something that's probably going to have updated versions.
>>>
>>> I'll probably go with Cyanogenmod, Plasma or Ubuntu for my next tablet,
>>> but for the child device I'd prefer something with a support chain. I
>>> also
>>> want to be able to use the Google market to get adult apps like my speed
>>> reader and German news site apps.
>>>
>>> I keep watching for the ZaTab to be available again :).
>>>
>>> http://zareason.com/shop/**zatab.html<http://zareason.com/shop/zatab.html>
>>>
>>> ciao,
>>>
>>> der.hans
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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