Re: Questions about Kubuntu 12.04 and its updates

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Author: Brian Cluff
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To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: Questions about Kubuntu 12.04 and its updates
I understand where you are coming from but you need not worry . The
updates you are seeing are the next maintenance release coming in. It's
still the exact same version of KDE you have had the whole time, they
are just simply giving you the bug/security fixes that have come out
within that KDE version. It should be completely safe to go ahead and
do the upgrade since you won't be gaining or losing any features, just
fixing bugs.

If you ever do want to get the newer version of KDE, you will need to
load a PPA (Personal Package Archive) that the KDE maintainers for
kubuntu keep that will give you access to the new version... or upgrade
to a newer version of Kubuntu of course.

I can tell you that the very next version of KDE doesn't add a whole lot
of new features, but they have ported much of the system to use
QTQuick/Plasma Quick, which give you a noticeable speed improvement and
smoother overall feel.

Brian Cluff

On 12/26/2012 11:35 PM, wrote:
> As a long-time Linux user, I have tried dozens of different Linux distros
> and been repeatedly frustrated by the endless changes that often seem to
> have made things worse (for me) rather than better.
>
> Of course, there have also been many improvements along the way, but I've
> been burned so many times by doing an update that created a horrific mess
> that I finally came to the point that I have kept one or more older
> systems running an older version of some distro that I got to a reliable
> state as a fall-back position when updates on newer distros created yet
> another nightmare for me.
>
> The best (for me) system I ever had was PCLinuxOS with KDE 3.5 and I still
> have it on a couple of my systems which I *never* "updated" and which have
> remained rock solid. Simultaneously, I suffered through endless ongoing
> nightmares with KDE 4 until I finally got a system that sort-of worked,
> marginally, but with a lot of goofy, needless widgets and garbage that I
> did not and do not want.
>
> Meanwhile, I tried numerous other distros and environments, none of which
> were as stable, practical, versatile, and functional (to my liking) as PCL
> KDE 3.5.
>
> Just as I started to get a PCL-KDE 4.6 to work reasonably well, PCL forced
> some new so-called "updates" on me that wrecked the whole system and
> caused it to completely quit working. So, I am finally fed up with PCL's
> "rolling release" fiasco and trying, once again, to find a Linux distro
> that I can "lock-in" without being subjected to yet more "updates" that
> screw up my whole world and cause me endless wasted hours trying to fix
> what wasn't broken before another nuisance "update."
>
> Since I have always preferred a Redhat based derivative, I've generally
> tried to avoid anything *buntu based. Among the many dozens of distros
> I've tried, older versions of Mandriva and PCLinux have been the
> best/most-stable I've used. I also tried CentOS and Mageia but ran into
> numerous problems with them. Also tried Mint, Suse, Arch, Puppy, Sabayon,
> Slackware, Vector, Knoppix, Backtrack, Salix, among many more. I know that
> I want nothing to do with gnome or unity.
>
> Recently I tried Kubuntu (12.04) and it seemed potentially pretty good
> (with a few annoying problems), but then right after I installed it, I got
> an "update" notice listing a huge number of changes it wants to do and I
> thought "Oh, no, not again."
>
> So, please forgive the rant, but why can't we have stable Linux distro
> that doesn't try to force endless "updates" on us? I hate updates. They
> almost always mess up my systems.
>
> I just want a stable system that does not keep pushing changes.
>
> Are any of you Kubuntu users who have done all these hundreds of changes
> to 12.04 without experiencing problems as a result?
>
>
>
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