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Author: Stephen
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Subject: Re: ot Online school
It will run on 1 but 2 is better.

And 2 cores are best vs 1
On Aug 9, 2012 12:11 AM, "Michael Havens" <> wrote:

> virtual machine! why didn't I think of that. What are the minimum memory
> requirements for 7. (I don't have XP but I do have 7)
> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Michael Butash <> wrote:
>
>> Just FYI, consulting and being aatround random shops with customer and
>> vendor docs, I find a lot of the .pptx, docx, or xlsx files are spotty at
>> best what works under linux, what works sanely (complex forumlas==poop),
>> and what just crashes openoffice. Libreoffice is almost useless with the
>> new formats, as the dev's don't feel they need to support microsoft's
>> continued forced incompatibility with everyone else on purpose (can't blame
>> them either). Obviously M$ doesn't care, as most people just keep buying
>> office when microsoft tells them to every few years to stay "compatible"
>> with their own poop.
>>
>> I keep an xp vm in virtualbox for this reason at all times, generally
>> with real office (well, as real as usenet gets for clean slipstream install
>> images), just to make sure if I *have* to resort to exporting from it to
>> something I can use (2000-03 compat office formats). Seamless mode under
>> linux i found finally works decently, reduces the sting of using windows
>> significantly and hides it to keep my linux desktop cred. ;)
>>
>> Likewise creating complex formatted docs are horribly incompatible
>> usually under real m$office from libre/openoffice, so export as pdf is your
>> friend when passing back and forth to windoze users.
>>
>> Really sucks it has to be this way - thanks microsoft.
>>
>> -mb
>>
>>
>>
>> On 08/08/2012 11:28 AM, Michael Havens wrote:
>>
>>> Its cool.... I was surprised they specified an OS as well. but the
>>> university of Minnesota seems more willing to work with me. This is what
>>> they said (in part):
>>>
>>> Firefox or Chrome for Linux should work fine for Moodle. Open Office for
>>> Linux saves as Word and in other MS compatible formats. We also have
>>> Google Docs as a University implementation so you can use those online
>>> apps.
>>>
>>> As long as you can view the following types of files you should be able
>>> to access most anything in the courses:
>>>
>>>   * Video
>>>       o .mp4, .wmv, Flash (flv or swf),
>>>   * Word Processing
>>>       o .docx, .doc (may require a document viewer for .docx)
>>>   * PowerPoint
>>>       o .pptx, .ppt (may require a document viewer for .pptx)
>>>   * PDF
>>>   * Excel
>>>       o occasionally .xlst, .xls
>>>   * Web browser (Chrome or Firefox may be the best choices, you are

>>>
>>>     welcome to try others)

>>>
>>> As Mark mentions, the only course we have that is geared specifically to
>>> a Microsoft product is Spreadsheets (CA 1020) but if you want to take
>>> that course and can accomplish the tasks without the Windows based
>>> interface tutorials and save the files as .xls, we'll get you into the
>>> section (different instructors) where you will not be required to use MS
>>> Office.
>>> SO I think I'll be paying them for my degree!
>>> :-)~MIKE~(-:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Harold Wong <
>>> <mailto:Harold.Wong@microsoft.**com <>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     I’m surprised that the online school is requiring you to run a
>>>     specific OS.  With that said, if you really need Windows 7 for
>>>     school and want to continue to use Linux as your main OS, I would
>>>     recommend virtualizing it as that would be much simpler.____

>>>
>>>     __ __

>>>
>>>
>>>     Harold Wong
>>>     Chief Technical Evangelist – Private Cloud | US Developer & Platform
>>>     Evangelism - West Region
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>>>     blogs.technet.com/haroldwong <http://blogs.technet.com/**haroldwong<http://blogs.technet.com/haroldwong>

>>> >
>>>
>>>     MCITP Server Administrator | MCITP Enterprise Administrator | MCITP
>>>     Enterprise Messaging Administrator 2007 / 2010 | VCP5____

>>>
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>>> *On Behalf
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>>>     *Sent:* Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:03 AM
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>>>     *Subject:* Re: ot Online school____

>>>
>>>     __ __

>>>
>>>
>>>     Not to be fatalistic, but you're probably going to have a hard time
>>>     finding a university that isn't very MS-happy.____

>>>
>>>     __ __

>>>
>>>
>>>     Installing on an external hard drive is problematic at best. I'm
>>>     pretty sure Windows protects against that. Licensing/piracy
>>> reasons.____

>>>
>>>
>>>     On 8 August 2012 10:56, Michael Havens <
>>>     <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>> wrote:____

>>>
>>>
>>>     they want $305/credit hour. Is that the going rate for a University
>>>     now a days? I think I'm going to go with a school that isn't so in
>>>     bed with MS. UMN is  not in bed with em.____

>>>
>>>
>>>     or else.... coulde I out it on an external HD?
>>>     :-)~MIKE~(-:____

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     ____

>>>
>>>
>>>     On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Stephen <
>>>     <mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com>> wrote:____

>>>
>>>
>>>     the pert i left out is if you install windows to the drive that has
>>>     Linux on it. even if you re-size the drives to make space it will
>>>     overwrite grub, and you will need to re-install and reconfigure it.
>>>     alternative install win7 in KVM or virtualbox.____

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:23 AM, Stephen <
>>>     <mailto:cryptworks@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>      > well personally if you can just install to a new drive then you
>>> can
>>>      > have it pristine and configure grub...
>>>      >

>>>      >
>>>      > On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Michael Havens <
>>>     <mailto:bmike1@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>      >> I need to put 7  back on my computer for school. How do you do
>>>     it w/o
>>>      >> blowing everything else away (ie on another partition). I also
>>>     need to
>>>      >> repartition. How big does it need to be for 7?
>>>      >> :-)~MIKE~(-:

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>>>      >
>>>      > Stephen

>>>
>>>
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