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Author: Mark Phillips
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To: michael, Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: Considering a new laptop
I have been only used dell for the past 10 years, and never had any issues.
I currenty have a Dell vostro 1520, which works out of the box with Debian
testing. I run Windows in vmplayer when I have to use it.

Mark

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 8:21 AM, Michael Butash <> wrote:

> Same with Dell, they employ guys like Mario Limonciello supporting their
> hardware that does a lot of compatibility testing and pushes fixes
> internally with dell for bios and other vendor-supported features. I'd do
> quick compat checks before buy, but Dell is usually a pretty safe option
> for linux support I find.
>
> I'd gone with a HP Elitebook for pure power (and 4 dimm slots for cheap
> 16gb ram) and other than raw performance, it's been an disaster for linux
> support. ACPI and bios disk functions are broken at best, and they will
> never fix them because their "userbase is too small". How about just
> making hardware that doesn't suck? Perfect example of a vendor parasite
> around linux - happy to use it to sell servers, but nothing else.
>
> -mb
>
>
>
> On 03/27/2012 07:01 AM, Stephen wrote:
>
>> Good machines that tend to work if not support Linux is sager notebooks.
>>
>> On Mar 27, 2012 6:35 AM, "
>> <mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.**com <>>" <
>>
>>
>> <mailto:kitepilot@kitepilot.**com <>>> wrote:
>>
>>    I would stay away from System76.
>>    Bad BAD (and costly) experience...
>>    ET
>>    PS: YMMV...

>>
>>
>>    Stephen writes:

>>
>>        The other option is a vendor like system76 they have a good bang
>>        for buck
>>        value. Or maybe red 7.
>>        But the instant you add discrete graphics your battery life goes
>>        way down.
>>        Also the dell latitudes support linux quite well. Just not in an
>>        official
>>        sense.
>>        On Mar 27, 2012 12:46 AM, "Phillip Waclawski"
>>        < <mailto:waclawski@mesacc.edu>> wrote:

>>
>>            I have one of the Dell Ubuntu Laptops from about 6 years ago
>>            (yes, they
>>            did sell 1420n inspirons with linux pre-installed :). It
>>            still works, but
>>            the Intel Graphics card doesn't support Opengl very well, so
>>            that makes
>>            Blender, openshot and other programs on linux a pain, and
>>            things like
>>            wacraft literally impossible.
>>            So, I've been thinking about
>>            http://zareason.com/shop/__**Strata-6770.html<http://zareason.com/shop/__Strata-6770.html>

>>
>>            <http://zareason.com/shop/**Strata-6770.html<http://zareason.com/shop/Strata-6770.html>>
>>     decked out
>>            to the point I
>>            want is about $1400, but the 6 cell battery with maybe 3
>>            hours of battery
>>            life...ugh
>>            http://zareason.com/shop/__**Verix-2.5.html<http://zareason.com/shop/__Verix-2.5.html>

>>
>>            <http://zareason.com/shop/**Verix-2.5.html<http://zareason.com/shop/Verix-2.5.html>>
>>    with a few
>>            upgrades goes to
>>            $2300 or so, everything I could want, but nearly $900 more.
>>            I know you pay a bit of a premium going with a non top tier
>>            vendor that
>>            supports linux, but I've heard good things about them, and
>>            enjoyed their
>>            talk on "RetroGnome" at SCALE X.
>>            What do folks think? And what other laptop vendors that
>>            support Linux
>>            (with good NVidia graphics cards in them, I won't do Intel
>>            graphics ever
>>            again).
>>            Thanks
>>            Phil Waclawski
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