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Author: Michael Havens
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Subject: Re: ide-eide
how about this drive:

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ide+hard+drive&oe=utf-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=7836135078448000879&sa=X&ei=vqrITpTSDqOyiQKi4837Dw&ved=0CLwBEPICMAM

it is only 80 gb. Is that too big?

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Michael Havens <> wrote:

> I gave up on the external hd aspirations because my mobo probably won't
> boot a USB. You say that older mobos have problems recognizing larger
> disks.... 160 gb is probably one of those. Could I partition it maybe and
> it would see more of it... is there a work around?
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 8:32 PM, Jim March <> wrote:
>
>> Let me add some hard disk advice, regardless of whether you do IDE/PATA
>> or SATA.
>>
>> Laptop-class drives (2.5") are smaller and slower than a desktop-class
>> drive (3.5"). BUT the laptop drives are much tougher, esp. in terms of
>> drop-resistance, and put out a lot less heat.
>>
>> You'll pay more for the gigabyte for a laptop-class drive.
>>
>> If you're using a laptop IDE drive in a desktop computer, you need an
>> adapter to make it work. Costs $5 at Fry's Electronics. On SATA drives
>> the connectors are the same for laptop or desktop.
>>
>> If you have a motherboard without SATA support, a SATA PCI adapter card
>> is very cheap - about $20 tops (Fry's has tons). It can be a much, much
>> better idea to buy a SATA drive plus PCI adapter now as opposed to an IDE
>> drive for an older motherboard. By jumping to SATA right away you gain the
>> ability to upgrade to a hotter SATA-support motherboard later. And
>> usually, the SATA PCI adapter card will let you run a big SATA drive on a
>> motherboard that doesn't otherwise support big IDE/PATA drives, because the
>> SATA PCI adapter takes over a lot of the hard disk support firmware from
>> the motherboard.
>>
>> The best hard disks today are made by Western Digital, in my opinion. A
>> very close second is Seagate. Comparatively speaking, the Japanese such as
>> Hitachi, Toshiba and Fujitsu suck. In terms of reliability Samsungs from
>> Korea are actually better than the Japanese drives. Maxtor is Seagate's
>> "budget line" - avoid.
>>
>> If you're buying an external drive that is NOT made by one of the above
>> drive-makers (LaCie, Buffalo, SimpleTech, many MANY more) then you're
>> buying a pig in a poke. You have no idea what brand of actual drive is in
>> there unless you either crack the case open (breaking the warrantee most
>> likely) or you use software tools to probe the make/model info. If however
>> you buy a Western Digital external drive fr'instance, you can take it to
>> the bank that there's a WD drive in there. Same concept for all the rest,
>> except that Seagate owns Maxtor and might slap a Maxtor drive under a
>> Seagate-brand chassis.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 7:18 PM, JD Austin <> wrote:
>>
>>> IDE, EIDE, and PATA (Parallel ATA) have the same interface.
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA
>>>
>>> Older motherboards may have trouble recognizing larger drives.
>>> IDE/EIDE/PATA is on it's way out.... get SATA if you have a choice since
>>> it's unlikely you'll find a motherboard with EIDE on it.
>>> Open Box= someone else didn't like it.
>>> I'd go SATA if I were you (supports native hot swapping).
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA
>>> I often use laptop drives for such things.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 18:48, Michael Havens <> wrote:
>>>
>>>> this is the ad:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.macconnection.com/IPA/Shop/Product/Detail.htm?sku=8239542&cm_mmc=Base-_-8239542-_-Used-_-WN3&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=8239542
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 6:44 PM, Michael Havens <>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a sales guy telling me at http://www.macconnection.com/ that
>>>>> an eide drive (theirs) will work on an IDE system. Is this true. As stated
>>>>> before I don't know if my system is ide or eide. I have an IBM NetVista
>>>>> computer. This is what they're trying to sell:
>>>>> Open Box Western Digital 160GB Caviar SE EIDE 3.5" Hard Drive - 8MB
>>>>> Cache
>>>>>
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