http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/eo-13224.htm
http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/FreedomofInformationAct/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_warrantless_surveillance_controversy
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:49 AM, keith smith <
klsmith2020@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Only time will tell. From where I sit, the president cannot circumvent the
> Constitution unless the courts let him. We do not have a dictator. We are
> a republic and the government was created by the states for a very limited
> functionality. The people have given up a some small amounts of rights for
> the common good and the government continues to take more and more. Look at
> ObamaCare. Clearly unconstitutional.
>
> We live in interesting times, just look at the state of our elections.
>
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> Keith Smith
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> --- On *Thu, 8/12/10, Lisa Kachold <lisakachold@obnosis.com>* wrote:
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> From: Lisa Kachold <lisakachold@obnosis.com>
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> Subject: Re: Kaseya Agents & You
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 10:21 AM
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> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:05 AM, R P Herrold <herrold@owlriver.com<http://mc/compose?to=herrold@owlriver.com>
> > wrote:
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> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Lisa Kachold wrote:
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> OPPS, I seem to have started a political conversation!
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>
> no, you made some assertions as to technical matter [with seemingly a Linux
> client hook], and I asked for some URLs to demonstrate the basis for your
> belief. A third party wanted to be a lawyer on a mailing list with some
> hearsay as well, but that is out of scope here
>
> My question echoes that of Joe Friday:
> "All we want are the facts, ma'am"
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> I can perform my own analysis and argue almost any side of an opinion given
> facts I can rely upon
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> --- On *Thu, 8/12/10, R P Herrold <herrold@owlriver.com<http://mc/compose?to=herrold@owlriver.com>>*
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> Lisa, for context:
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> It is currently being used by NSA and government surveillance of citizens
> of interest, or it can be used for technical support purposes.
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> herrold: A strong assertion.
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> ... snip ...
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> Conspicuously absent from a google search is non 'tinfoil hat' evidence
> beyond supposition and capabilities, and actually showing improper use by a
> federal agency
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> Please, prove me wrong with URLs I missed
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>
> -- Russ herrold
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> I did not state improper use. It's all legal as of Presidential Special
> Order.
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