http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/eo/eo-13224.htm http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/FreedomofInformationAct/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_warrantless_surveillance_controversy On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:49 AM, keith smith wrote: > > Only time will tell. From where I sit, the president cannot circumvent the > Constitution unless the courts let him. We do not have a dictator. We are > a republic and the government was created by the states for a very limited > functionality. The people have given up a some small amounts of rights for > the common good and the government continues to take more and more. Look at > ObamaCare. Clearly unconstitutional. > > We live in interesting times, just look at the state of our elections. > > ------------------------ > Keith Smith > > --- On *Thu, 8/12/10, Lisa Kachold * wrote: > > > From: Lisa Kachold > > Subject: Re: Kaseya Agents & You > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 10:21 AM > > > > > On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:05 AM, R P Herrold > > wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Lisa Kachold wrote: > > OPPS, I seem to have started a political conversation! > > > no, you made some assertions as to technical matter [with seemingly a Linux > client hook], and I asked for some URLs to demonstrate the basis for your > belief. A third party wanted to be a lawyer on a mailing list with some > hearsay as well, but that is out of scope here > > My question echoes that of Joe Friday: > "All we want are the facts, ma'am" > > I can perform my own analysis and argue almost any side of an opinion given > facts I can rely upon > > > --- On *Thu, 8/12/10, R P Herrold >* > wrote: > > > Lisa, for context: > > It is currently being used by NSA and government surveillance of citizens > of interest, or it can be used for technical support purposes. > > > herrold: A strong assertion. > > ... snip ... > > Conspicuously absent from a google search is non 'tinfoil hat' evidence > beyond supposition and capabilities, and actually showing improper use by a > federal agency > > Please, prove me wrong with URLs I missed > > > -- Russ herrold > > > I did not state improper use. It's all legal as of Presidential Special > Order. > > -- > Office: (602)239-3392 > AT&T: (503)754-4452 > http://it-clowns.com > "Faith is, at one and the same time, absolutely necessary and altogether > impossible. " > --Stanislav Lem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Inline Attachment Follows----- > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Office: (602)239-3392 AT&T: (503)754-4452 http://it-clowns.com "Faith is, at one and the same time, absolutely necessary and altogether impossible. " --Stanislav Lem