OPPS, I seem to have started a political conversation!
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:42 AM, keith smith <
klsmith2020@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> If you are asking for proof that the government is watching everyone of us
> just take a look at the USA PATRIOT Act. It give authority to wire tap and
> other surveillance activities with much less restriction. It allows
> authorities to circumvent the constitution and hold prisoners incommunicado
> while violating their 6th and 14th Amendments right to due process. Clearly
> unconstitutional.
>
> Here is an example of how the law is being abused
>
> Lundeby said the USA Patriot Act<http://www.usdoj.gov/archive/ll/highlights.htm>stripped her son of his due process rights.
>
> "We have no rights under the Patriot Act to even defend them, because the
> Patriot Act basically supersedes the Constitution," she said. "It wasn't
> intended to drag your barely 16-year-old, 120-pound son out in the middle of
> the night on a charge that we can't even defend."
>
> http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/5049867/
>
> http://www.reformthepatriotact.org/
>
>
>
> ------------------------
> Keith Smith
>
> --- On *Thu, 8/12/10, R P Herrold <herrold@owlriver.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: R P Herrold <herrold@owlriver.com>
> Subject: Re: Kaseya Agents & You
> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Date: Thursday, August 12, 2010, 9:19 AM
>
>
> On Thu, 12 Aug 2010, Lisa Kachold wrote:
>
> > It can be used for malicious reasons.
>
> so can almost any tool
>
> As you later note:
>
> > It is not cheap. Free applications and online tools exist to do the
> samething.
>
> drop in a VNC server, pre-key it, and hide it from the process table
> listing, and one is home in a Windows environment; munge a kernel module,
> and one can attain the same effect in Linux. Apple has similar in OS/X ...
>
> back to the lead post ...
>
> > It is currently being used by NSA and government surveillance of citizens
> of interest, or it can be used for technical support purposes.
>
> A strong assertion. A search turns up just another vendor, in the
> marketing hunt trying to sell to the Homeland Security 'garrison state'
> http://www.kaseya.com/
> with a FIPS-140-2 certification. They are co-marketing with Microsoft
> http://www.microsoft.com/sbs/en/us/software-solutions.aspx
> and they seem to advert having sold to the U S Air Force
>
> Conspicuously absent from a google search is non 'tinfoil hat' evidence
> beyond supposition and capabilities, and actually showing improper use by a
> federal agency
>
> Please, prove me wrong with URLs I missed
>
> -- Russ herrold
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