Excerpts from Joshua Zeidner's message of Mon May 17 22:14:09 -0700 2010:
> I can respect that Tuna, but keep in mind that people say politically
> charged things all the time here without problem. It's when we arrive at
> loaded topics like illegal aliens that suddenly registers as 'trolling'.
> The fact is this issue effects us all, even as developers or Linux users,
> and most certainly as Arizonan residents. Trying to blot out the discussion
> is just as caustic. The fact that David seems tacitly supportive of groups
> like La Raza make it even more alarming.
>
> I don't see why people who hold perfectly valid opinions with regards to
> illegal aliens should feel alienated *in their own country*. Enough of this
> PC crap.
>
> -jmz
>
No question the topic swelled to 70+ posts because many find this more
inflammatory than others. I am only attempting to treat the effect, a 70+
post thread of worthless hissy fits.
I would have posted my lovely ASCII art if this was a discussion of traffic
light bias, horseradish recipes, gay marriage, animal rights, a new proposed
sales tax, thebanning of "your mom" jokes on the lightrail, or the availability of finger sandwiches in downtown Tempe.
> On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Tuna <tuna@supertunaman.com> wrote:
>
> > Excerpts from Joshua Zeidner's message of Mon May 17 21:44:38 -0700 2010:
> > > To the rest,
> > >
> > >
> > > you're trying to tell me a few emails in your inbox is so absolutely
> > > painful you're going to throw a fit or something?
> > >
> >
> > At the time of writing, this thread is 67 messages long. That's more than a
> > few. Easy to ignore in my GMail-style threaded email client, although it
> > does
> > take about a minute to open this thread.
> >
> > > no, you just don't like what is being said... but guess what- this
> > > issue is now front and center and as far as I'm concerned there is no
> > > controversy here if you are an concerned Arizonan.
> > >
> >
> > It's not that we don't like it, or even that we don't care. It's simply the
> > wrong place, and therefore trolling.
> >
> > We respect your political opinions, and many of us may even agree. But
> > please,
> > not on plug-discuss. This is not your personal enraged-chain-mail-list, or
> > your
> > television audience. This is a (shrinking) group of hobbyists and
> > professionals
> > that like to talk about Linux.
> >
> > >
> > > -jmz
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Tuna,
> > > >
> > > > We were discussing macro economic trends that effect all linux
> > > > developers as well as issues pertaining to Arizona and Linux. Just
> > because
> > > > some deem the issue of illegal aliens to be out of bounds does not mean
> > we
> > > > terminate the discussion whenever we arrive at the subject. Of course
> > some
> > > > people don't like it being discussed. Those are the people who want to
> > > > prevent action from being taken. There are some of these people on
> > this
> > > > thread. How can we discuss anything these days without addressing
> > *what is
> > > > right in front of our faces every day*!?
> > > >
> > > > The fact is everyone, this country is in deep doo doo. It's not a
> > > > laughing matter. Anyone who was at the Sharpton rally will tell you
> > that
> > > > these people are violent and they most certainly are un-american. Our
> > state
> > > > is broke, as are many other states. Our ability to maintain our
> > technology
> > > > sector will rely heavily on our ability to stabilize ourselves
> > politically.
> > > > This means *your job*. It might even be an opportunity to position
> > > > ourselves profitably relative to California. Discussion is absolutely
> > > > critical to moving in the right direction. Don't let people blow the
> > issue
> > > > out of proportion or try to turn it into some racial battleground.
> > > >
> > > > That being said, you may now return to complaining about COX
> > service or
> > > > whatever other stuff is 'on topic'.
> > > >
> > > > -jmz
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Tuna <tuna@supertunaman.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> /| _______
> > > >> / | __-- --__ |\
> > > >> | \_-- --_ / |
> > > >> | ) \/ |
> > > >> \__/ /
> > > >> ) ________________,-`
> > > >> / 0 .. 0 |
> > > >> / /| | ,
> > > >> \ ,__ / | \/ |
> > > >> \ ```````````````````)
> > > >> \______________________/
> > > >> ILLEGAL ALIEN IS ILLEGAL
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> I created this ascii art myself, and hereby release it into the public
> > > >> domain.
> > > >>
> > > >> Congrats, Zeidner.
> > > >>
> > > >> Excerpts from Joshua Zeidner's message of Sun May 16 12:54:33 -0700
> > 2010:
> > > >> > Hello PLUG,
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I am wondering if anyone is switching off Apple products due to
> > the
> > > >> recent
> > > >> > Los Angeles boycott of Arizona:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/05/12/20100512los-angeles-boycott-vo
> > > >> > te-over-arizona-immigration-law12-ON.html
> > > >> >
> > > >> > <
> > > >>
> > http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2010/05/12/20100512los-angeles-boycott-v
> > > >> > ote-over-arizona-immigration-law12-ON.html>
> > > >> > Hopefully
> > > >> > they will choose Linux.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > -jmz
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
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