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Author: der.hans
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Subject: Re: which t-mobile android phone?
Am 16. Mär, 2010 schwätzte Alan Dayley so:

> I have a myTouch since November. I like it, though it is laggy
> sometimes, like a computer using the swap file too much. If I were to
> buy now, I'd get a Nexus One.


Yeah, for me I'm going Nexxus One or N900.

> As you your requirements...
>
> - Most of your list is not possible on any Android phone unless you
> replace the software with some other build. There are many out there


True, I guess I should've thought more about what I want from my phone
and what I want from my wife's phone. Nexxus One and N900 hit all of my
required features, don't they?

> and probably can do what you want but you will then be outside the
> boundaries of support from T-Mobile. For you and many here on this
> list this is not a big problem. Just thought you should know the
> limitation.


I appreciate you mentioning it.

> -- As far as I know, you will have to replace the OS build in order to
> get the following features:
>> . bluetooth tethering
>> . ssh out
>> . root access
>> . play ogg-vorbis
>> . ssh in across cell network
>> . USB tethering
>> . tetherable via wifi


No tethering on the t-mobile phones? Verizon is advertising tethering up
to 5 devices to a droid. I find it difficult to believe Verizon would be
first to market with some customer service feature.

> - As far as I know you will not get any of the following features with
> any of the Android phones currently available:
>> . tether and call at the same time


Hmm. I was told that's possible.

>> . on phone internet connection and call at the same time


Same here.

>> . phone to phone communication via bluetooth
>> . phone to phone communication via wifi
>> . can use external display ( monitor and/or TV )
>
> - For the feature "contact, etc. syncing w/ GNU/Linux" I don't know
> what to answer. All Android phones sync contacts, calendar, email
> with your Google account. So if your GNU/Linux contact management can
> sync with your Google accounts, it is also syncing with your phone.


Um. No Google account. Well, OK, I now have one for work, so I'll get to
use this, but that's not where my important contacts and preferences will
be listed.

> - The phone comes with three email apps:
> -- GMail is for your, um, GMail.
> -- Mail is for some general email account somewhere so you can use
> this one for your own servers.


Cool. I will be testing this one :).

> -- Work Email will connect to a (ugh) Exchange server and get email that way.


And avoiding this one.

> -- I have several email accounts that feed to my GMail account so I
> can do them all in the GMail app.
>
> - The Motorola models are "TVO-ized." They check all binaries for a
> specific signature. No signature, the binary will not run. This
> means only official builds of OS can be used on those phones. In
> other words, don't get one from Motorola if you want to change the
> software. I have friends with the Motorola Cliq who love the phone
> except that they can only update it via official releases, which are
> slow coming.


Very good to know. The Mot phones just dropped off the list. I
specifically plan on not mucking with the software on my wife's phone, but
that doesn't mean I won't want to do so some other time.

I just learned that t-mobile is doing 2 for 1 on droid phones, so I'll
have a spare droid anyway :).

Thanks for the info!!!

ciao,

der.hans

> Alan
>
> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:41 PM, der.hans <> wrote:
>> moin moin,
>>
>> I need to get new phones. Which of the t-mobile android phones best meet
>> the following requirements?
>>
>> Required features:
>> . bluetooth tethering
>> . ability to turn off GPS if one is available
>> . ssh out
>> . bluetooth
>> . connect to my own mail servers
>> . root access
>> . play ogg-vorbis
>> . contact, etc. syncing w/ GNU/Linux
>>
>> Desired features:
>> . tether and call at the same time
>> . on phone internet connection and call at the same time
>> . ssh in across cell network
>> . USB tethering
>> . fully functional while charging
>> . root access w/o jailbreaking
>> . wifi
>> . tetherable via wifi
>> . phone to phone communication via bluetooth
>> . phone to phone communication via wifi
>> . GPS
>> . camera and video
>> . external storage card, prefer sdmc
>> . can use external display ( monitor and/or TV )
>>
>> Any features that I forgot?
>>
>> t-mobile has Motorola CLIQ, Samsung Behold II, t-mobile myTouch and G1.
>> Which is the better phone? I will be trying to do this w/o a contract, so
>> deals don't matter and all phones appears to be almost equally expensive.
>> I am interested in consumer ready, easy to use as this one is for my wife.
>>
>> What services/features are included in the service plan? If not, what is
>> the add on cost?
>>
>> . cell phone calling?
>> . internet access ( not just web )?
>> . tethering?
>> . gps?
>>
>> I still haven't completely decided whether I will go with the Nexxus One
>> or N900 for my own use. Will the N900 work with t-mobile? I believe it
>> will.
>>
>> I could consider ATT if I go with the N900 and it works well with ATT, but
>> as I understand it the Nexxus One currently will not work fully with ATT.
>>
>> Does t-mobile carry a Linux-based, large numbered, low-cost phone? This
>> one just needs to be able to make and receive calls on the family plan.
>> Receiving text messages on the family plan would also be good.
>>
>> ciao,
>>
>> der.hans
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