Am 16. Mär, 2010 schwätzte Alan Dayley so: > I have a myTouch since November. I like it, though it is laggy > sometimes, like a computer using the swap file too much. If I were to > buy now, I'd get a Nexus One. Yeah, for me I'm going Nexxus One or N900. > As you your requirements... > > - Most of your list is not possible on any Android phone unless you > replace the software with some other build. There are many out there True, I guess I should've thought more about what I want from my phone and what I want from my wife's phone. Nexxus One and N900 hit all of my required features, don't they? > and probably can do what you want but you will then be outside the > boundaries of support from T-Mobile. For you and many here on this > list this is not a big problem. Just thought you should know the > limitation. I appreciate you mentioning it. > -- As far as I know, you will have to replace the OS build in order to > get the following features: >> . bluetooth tethering >> . ssh out >> . root access >> . play ogg-vorbis >> . ssh in across cell network >> . USB tethering >> . tetherable via wifi No tethering on the t-mobile phones? Verizon is advertising tethering up to 5 devices to a droid. I find it difficult to believe Verizon would be first to market with some customer service feature. > - As far as I know you will not get any of the following features with > any of the Android phones currently available: >> . tether and call at the same time Hmm. I was told that's possible. >> . on phone internet connection and call at the same time Same here. >> . phone to phone communication via bluetooth >> . phone to phone communication via wifi >> . can use external display ( monitor and/or TV ) > > - For the feature "contact, etc. syncing w/ GNU/Linux" I don't know > what to answer. All Android phones sync contacts, calendar, email > with your Google account. So if your GNU/Linux contact management can > sync with your Google accounts, it is also syncing with your phone. Um. No Google account. Well, OK, I now have one for work, so I'll get to use this, but that's not where my important contacts and preferences will be listed. > - The phone comes with three email apps: > -- GMail is for your, um, GMail. > -- Mail is for some general email account somewhere so you can use > this one for your own servers. Cool. I will be testing this one :). > -- Work Email will connect to a (ugh) Exchange server and get email that way. And avoiding this one. > -- I have several email accounts that feed to my GMail account so I > can do them all in the GMail app. > > - The Motorola models are "TVO-ized." They check all binaries for a > specific signature. No signature, the binary will not run. This > means only official builds of OS can be used on those phones. In > other words, don't get one from Motorola if you want to change the > software. I have friends with the Motorola Cliq who love the phone > except that they can only update it via official releases, which are > slow coming. Very good to know. The Mot phones just dropped off the list. I specifically plan on not mucking with the software on my wife's phone, but that doesn't mean I won't want to do so some other time. I just learned that t-mobile is doing 2 for 1 on droid phones, so I'll have a spare droid anyway :). Thanks for the info!!! ciao, der.hans > Alan > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:41 PM, der.hans wrote: >> moin moin, >> >> I need to get new phones. Which of the t-mobile android phones best meet >> the following requirements? >> >> Required features: >> . bluetooth tethering >> . ability to turn off GPS if one is available >> . ssh out >> . bluetooth >> . connect to my own mail servers >> . root access >> . play ogg-vorbis >> . contact, etc. syncing w/ GNU/Linux >> >> Desired features: >> . tether and call at the same time >> . on phone internet connection and call at the same time >> . ssh in across cell network >> . USB tethering >> . fully functional while charging >> . root access w/o jailbreaking >> . wifi >> . tetherable via wifi >> . phone to phone communication via bluetooth >> . phone to phone communication via wifi >> . GPS >> . camera and video >> . external storage card, prefer sdmc >> . can use external display ( monitor and/or TV ) >> >> Any features that I forgot? >> >> t-mobile has Motorola CLIQ, Samsung Behold II, t-mobile myTouch and G1. >> Which is the better phone? I will be trying to do this w/o a contract, so >> deals don't matter and all phones appears to be almost equally expensive. >> I am interested in consumer ready, easy to use as this one is for my wife. >> >> What services/features are included in the service plan? If not, what is >> the add on cost? >> >> . cell phone calling? >> . internet access ( not just web )? >> . tethering? >> . gps? >> >> I still haven't completely decided whether I will go with the Nexxus One >> or N900 for my own use. Will the N900 work with t-mobile? I believe it >> will. >> >> I could consider ATT if I go with the N900 and it works well with ATT, but >> as I understand it the Nexxus One currently will not work fully with ATT. >> >> Does t-mobile carry a Linux-based, large numbered, low-cost phone? This >> one just needs to be able to make and receive calls on the family plan. >> Receiving text messages on the family plan would also be good. >> >> ciao, >> >> der.hans >> -- >> #  http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes        http://www.TwoGeekTechs.com/ >> #  Director of Engineering, FonWallet Transaction Solutions, Inc. >> #  Boredom is self-inflicted...der.hans >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- # http://www.LuftHans.com/Classes http://www.TwoGeekTechs.com/ # Director of Engineering, FonWallet Transaction Solutions, Inc. # Stell dir vor, es ist Krieg und keiner geht hin...