Re: Who Wants High Speed Fiber Connections in PHX?

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Author: Dazed_75
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Subject: Re: Who Wants High Speed Fiber Connections in PHX?
What I mean is that all the responses are about privacy and mistrust of the
vendor rather than the experiment relating to higher speed access technology
and that we could be a factor in getting Phoenix to be chosen as one of the
experiment sites which seems the purpose of the original message.

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:41 AM, Frank <> wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:31 AM, Dazed_75 <> wrote:
>
>> Hmmm, original post and 10 replies. And the only message on topic is the
>> original question to which no one gave a response. Very sad!!!
>>
>
> I think this is all on topic: having Google as an ISP in the Valley would
> give them the same access to our data as Cox currently has (in my case.)
>
>
>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:01 AM, Frank <> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Alan Dayley <>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Frank <> wrote:
>>>> > It really isn't any different to ISP's knowledge of our online
>>>> activities
>>>> > now... I think its actually better since Google is fully upfront about
>>>> their
>>>> > access to our online activities!
>>>> > Privacy is important, but on the internet, we've never had it... I
>>>> don't
>>>> > really understand the uproar directed at Google, if anything, its
>>>> better
>>>> > that so much is stored in one place... the more there is, the harder
>>>> it is
>>>> > to track unless they have good reason. If you're doing nothing illegal
>>>> on
>>>> > the internet, I don't see why people worry?
>>>>
>>>> If it were financially feasible to do so, it sounds like you would
>>>> have no problem with a having a police officer follow you and watch
>>>> you 24/7. After all, you would not do anything illegal, right?
>>>>
>>>
>>> We already have cameras on us almost anywhere we go, FBI also can tap
>>> your phone for a wide variety of reasons. Your television habits are tracked
>>> too, else how do they get ratings? I don't see people stopping their use of
>>> phones and TV, or not going on freeways or to public places due to privacy?
>>> Internet privacy is very similar in many ways to both of these, unless we're
>>> doing something wrong, we know they're not singling us out.
>>>
>>> Your statement even points this out, it simply isn't feasible to track
>>> and monitor everything each person does online, there is simply too much
>>> data! With it all going to one source, it makes this even less feasible.
>>> AdSense and friends use your data in certain algorithms, but there isn't an
>>> actual person taking time out of their day to see what news articles you
>>> read today or what you downloaded yesterday.
>>>
>>> I understand most people are much more private than me, but I personally
>>> worry more about things like censorship compared to privacy... I simply
>>> don't have much to hide.
>>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Dazed_75 a.k.a. Larry
>>
>> The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain
>> occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive.
>> - Thomas Jefferson
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